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RickVoid

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[El96%lYASD] Army of Darkness?
« on: November 24, 2007, 10:30 »
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 DoomRL (v.0.9.8.7 BETA 2) roguelike post-mortem character dump
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 Ash, level 4 Demon Lieutenant, killed by a hell knight
 on level 10 of the Phobos base.
 He survived 40158 turns and scored 8465 points.
 He was too young to die!

 He killed 110 out of 115 hellspawn. (96%)
 He held his right to remain violent.

 He stormed the Chained Court.
 He fought on Hell's Arena.
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-- Statistics ------------------------------------------------

  Health -1/50   Experience 5669/4
  ToHit +0  ToDmg Ranged +0  ToDmg Melee +0

-- Traits ----------------------------------------------------

    Finesse        (Level 1)
    Reloader       (Level 2)
    Shottyman      (Level 1)

  Rel->Rel->SM->Fin->

-- Equipment -------------------------------------------------

    [a] [ Armor      ]   nothing
    [b] [ Weapon     ]   extended combat shotgun (6d3) [7/8]
    [c] [ Boots      ]   protective boots [4/4] (96%)
    [d] [ Prepared   ]   chainsaw (4d6)

-- Inventory -------------------------------------------------

    [a] green armor [1/1] (100%)
    [b] blue armor [1/2] (33%)
    [c] blue armor [1/2] (46%)
    [d] blue armor [1/2] (40%)
    [e] shotgun shell (x30)
    [f] shotgun shell (x50)
    [g] shotgun shell (x50)
    [h] shotgun shell (x50)
    [i] shotgun shell (x50)
    [j] shotgun shell (x50)
    [k] small med-pack
    [l] small med-pack
    [m] small med-pack
    [n] large med-pack
    [o] weapon damage mod
    [p] weapon reload mod
    [q] weapon speed mod
    [r] weapon speed mod

-- Kills -----------------------------------------------------

    42 former humans
    18 former sergeants
    9 former captains
    16 imps
    8 demons
    6 lost souls
    4 cacodemons

-- History ---------------------------------------------------

  He started his journey on the surface of Phobos.
  On level 2 he entered Hell's Arena.
  He cowardly fled the Arena.
  On level 5 he stormed the Chained Court.
  On level 10 he finally was killed by a hell knight.

-- Messages --------------------------------------------------

 Fire -- Choose target... The hell knight fires! You are hit!
 You pump a shell into the shotgun chamber. The hell knight fires! You are
 hit!
 Fire -- Choose target...
 You pump a shell into the shotgun chamber. The hell knight fires! You are
 hit!
 You use a large med-pack. You feel fully healed. The hell knight fires!
 Fire -- Choose target... The hell knight fires! You are hit! Your green
 armor is completely destroyed!
 You pump a shell into the shotgun chamber. The hell knight fires! You are
 hit! You are bleeding!
 Fire -- Choose target... You lose blood! The hell knight fires! You are hit!
 You pump a shell into the shotgun chamber. You lose blood!
 Fire -- Choose target... The bleeding stops. The hell knight fires! You are
 hit! You die!...

-- General ---------------------------------------------------

 Before him 51 brave souls have ventured into Phobos:
 47 of those were killed.
 3 of those were killed by something unknown.

 Some rumours though, say that the Cyberdemon was killed already!
 Is he immortal? 1 souls claim to have killed him...
 1 killed the bastard and survived.

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Now that we have the ability to use prepared melee weapons without actually haveing to switch to them first, I thought I'd give our favorite shotgun and chainsaw wielding hero/madman a try.

The main problem with this attempt seems to be that in order to be a good shottgunner, you need to get three traits as soon as you can. In order to be a good meleer, you need four traits. And to be able to use prepared melee weapons without switching to them, you need two more.

Basically, the build doesn't work well until level 9 at least. And since you don't have intuition (therefore able to safely find a monster spawning lever) good luck getting there without dying.

Oh, and you have to do it without any of the health increasing/damage reducing traits.

Of course, that won't stop me from trying. :) Here's an earlier attempt... (spoilered for size reasons)

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This one suffers the same problems as the last one. 3 SOG, 3 Brute, 1 Berserk, 1 Fin, 1 Jugg = 9 traits, only difference is that I can shoot faster with the pistol than with a shotgun.
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Kornel Kisielewicz

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Re: [El96%lYASD] Army of Darkness?
« Reply #1 on: November 25, 2007, 11:37 »
Hmm, maybe a specialized trait for the combo then? :P
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Re: [El96%lYASD] Army of Darkness?
« Reply #2 on: November 26, 2007, 06:45 »
Ranged traits aren't needed at first, I think. Try it with taking Juggler first, then melee traits, then others...

BTW : What trait, Kornel ?
« Last Edit: November 26, 2007, 06:48 by Ilhar »
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Re: [El96%lYASD] Army of Darkness?
« Reply #3 on: November 26, 2007, 07:44 »
Quote from: Kornel Kisielewicz on November 25, 2007, 11:37
Hmm, maybe a specialized trait for the combo then? :P

That would be nice, but how would you go about it?

You could drop juggler, and then put in a new trait that does what jugg does, and adds a little melee damage. From what I've seen, unless you have damage boosting traits melee hurts you more than the other way around.

Juggler is a kickass trait in theory, but in it's execution... :(
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