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[Igor Savin]

This one comes from locked door generation algorithm I was thinking about for Carceri, but what the hell - it could be used anywhere.

How it works:

1) Random map generator creates new room.

2) If room has 1 exit, then continue, else stop_check_locked.

3) If room has no stairs (maybe except for bonus ones) then continue, else stop.

4) If this is the last room to be generated, then stop, else continue (otherwise you won't be able to place keycard; I don't know if it's possible to return to previously created ones in order to do so, since you'll have to somehow check, if they are locked or not, and keycards should either be never locked, or locked in sequence, that is possible to follow)

...maybe some other conditions?

4) x\100 chance door gets one of 3 colours. If rolled succesfully, block entrance with door, generate keycard (and maybe some additional monsters around it; maybe additional items too).


This way it's impossible to make game unplayable by locking vital rooms, and searching for keycards allows to get some additional supplies...

Keycard can be not simple laying around, but carried by some monster not inside locked room... BTW, locked rooms should have indestructible walls or the whole point would be missed.


Actually, stairways can be locked too, but condition of only one exit should be met anyway; otherwise you'll get lost in uberdifficult checks...

[Kornel Kisielewicz]

But this way it would be just a nuisance, that would make you run around more. Adds nothing to playability IMHO.

There was another idea tough, that vaults are locked with keycards -- and you can have more then one keycard of a color. Then you could use your found keycards either with the first occasion, or save them for the lower levels (where the rewards are better).

[Igor Savin]

Quoting: Kornel Kisielewicz

There was another idea tough, that vaults are locked with keycards -- and you can have more then one keycard of a color. Then you could use your found keycards either with the first occasion, or save them for the lower levels (where the rewards are better).

Good idea :).

[JimmyJ]

Nice, that somehow reminds me of on Gauntlet, you can save keys }:)

[jake250]

There could be some small rooms with indestructible walls that contain stuff and ennemies, but can only be opened with key. Diferent color could also mean better stuff... So you may find lot of blue, a bit of yellow, and rarely red. So if you find a vault or locked room, if it requires a red key, then it may contain a lot more valuable stuff. Just an idea.

[JimmyJ]

Quoting: jake250000000000000000000000000

There could be some small rooms with indestructible walls that contain stuff and ennemies, but can only be opened with key. Diferent color could also mean better stuff... So you may find lot of blue, a bit of yellow, and rarely red. So if you find a vault or locked room, if it requires a red key, then it may contain a lot more valuable stuff. Just an idea.

That sounds like it would be pretty easy to remember!

[Zephyre Syx]

Quoting: Kornel Kisielewicz

There was another idea tough, that vaults are locked with keycards -- and you can have more then one keycard of a color. Then you could use your found keycards either with the first occasion, or save them for the lower levels (where the rewards are better).

Yay!  You remembered!  But seriously though, I see your point where the keys would just hinder the gameplay, but think of the original doom (and how annoying that was).  From there, it's a challenge because the key itself is guarded by Big...HUGE ARSED DEMON!  But I guess it might be only useful if the key was planned out in special floors.  Its just some floors that does that, but not nessisary all of them.

Just a thought though.  When I was in that Chained Court, I managed to get a rocket launcher early and started opening up those 6 extra rooms...nothing in them =(.  *shrugs*

[Kornel Kisielewicz]

Quoting: Zephyre Syx

Yay! You remembered!

Yup ;-). Welcome to the forum :-D.

Quoting: Zephyre Syx

But I guess it might be only useful if the key was planned out in special floors.

...or if the level generator would place them intelligently... the current one can't :-/

Quoting: Zephyre Syx

When I was in that Chained Court, I managed to get a rocket launcher early and started opening up those 6 extra rooms...nothing in them =(. *shrugs*

Kheh, didn't think about that :-D. Well, maybe the next time (next version...) something will be there :->

[Aerton]

Quoting: Kornel Kisielewicz

There was another idea tough, that vaults are locked with keycards -- and you can have more then one keycard of a color. Then you could use your found keycards either with the first occasion, or save them for the lower levels (where the rewards are better).

This sound much better.

[Thomas]

Keycards would be okay, in moderation. Also make sure that keycards take up no/little inventory space. My inventory is always cramed with 19 items without the keycards!

[JimmyJ]

Yes, no inventory for keycards would be bliss

[Kornel Kisielewicz]

That would be too easy :-P. I think that keycards will take a slot each -- that way you will have to make a tactical decision -- carry these in the hope of finding a good vault? Or throw them away and make space for ammo?

[JimmyJ]

wait! My post disappeared !!

[Aerton]

Thinking about it again, all doors and walls currently can be blasted away, and it's a nice feature of the game that would be sad to see going away...