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[M|AoMs|StdWin|93%] Dear God Finally
« on: January 01, 2009, 19:42 »

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 DoomRL (v.0.9.8.10) roguelike post-mortem character dump
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 Thomas, level 10 Cacodemon Major, completely ripped the Cyberdemon a new one*
 on level 25 of the Phobos base.
 He survived 108473 turns and scored 88171 points.
 He didn't like it too rough.

 He killed 500 out of 536 hellspawn. (93%)**
 He held his right to remain violent.
 He was an Angel of Masochism!


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-- Statistics ------------------------------------------------

  Health 6/50   Experience 42032/10
  ToHit +2  ToDmg Ranged +3  ToDmg Melee +3

-- Traits ----------------------------------------------------

    Tough as nails (Level 3)
    Son of a bitch (Level 3)
    Eagle Eye      (Level 1)
    Badass         (Level 3)****

  SoB->SoB->EE->SoB->TaN->TaN->TaN->Bad->Bad->Bad->

-- Equipment -------------------------------------------------

    [a] [ Armor      ]   Malek's Armor [3/3] (100%)*****
    [b] [ Weapon     ]   modified plasma rifle (1d8)x8 [0/40] (S1)
    [c] [ Boots      ]   plasteel boots [4/4] (92%)
    [d] [ Prepared   ]   Nuclear Plasma Rifle (1d7)x8 [24/24]*****

-- Inventory*6 -------------------------------------------------

    [a] modified rocket launcher (6d6) [0/1] (R1)
    [b] modified chaingun (1d7)x5 [50/50] (D1)
    [c] red armor [4/4] (100%)
    [d] red armor [4/4] (100%)
    [e] 10mm ammo (x85)
    [f] 10mm ammo (x100)
    [g] 10mm ammo (x100)
    [h] 10mm ammo (x100)
    [i] 10mm ammo (x100)
    [j] 10mm ammo (x100)
    [k] 10mm ammo (x100)
    [l] rocket (x9)
    [m] power cell (x36)
    [n] power cell (x50)
    [o] weapon magazine mod
    [p] protective boots [2/2] (100%)

-- Kills -----------------------------------------------------

    120 former humans
    81 former sergeants
    21 former captains
    69 imps
    47 demons
    53 lost souls
    30 cacodemons
    14 barons of hell
    1 Cyberdemon
    16 hell knights
    11 arachnotrons
    5 former commandos
    4 pain elementals
    2 arch-viles*7
    7 mancubi*7
    4 revenants*7

-- History ---------------------------------------------------

  He started his journey on the surface of Phobos.
  On level 2 he entered Hell's Arena.
  He left the Arena as a champion!*8
  On level 5 he stormed the Chained Court.
  On level 9 he found Hell's Armory.
  On level 9 he found the Nuclear Plasma Rifle!
  On level 10 he witnessed the Wall.
  Not knowing what to do, he left.*9
  On level 13 he ventured into the Halls of Carnage.
  On level 16 he invaded the Unholy Cathedral!
  He fled the Unholy Cathedral seeing no chance to win.
  Entering level 19 he was almost dead...
  On level 20 he found the Malek's Armor!
  Then at last he found Phobos Arena!
  On level 25 he totally fucking owned the Cyberdemon.*

-- Messages *10 --------------------------------------------------

 hits the Cyberdemon. The missile hits the Cyberdemon. The missile
 hits the Cyberdemon. The missile hits the Cyberdemon. The missile hits the
 Cyberdemon.
 Fire -- Choose target... The missile hits the Cyberdemon. The missile
 hits the Cyberdemon. The missile hits the Cyberdemon. The missile
 hits the Cyberdemon. The missile hits the Cyberdemon. The missile hits the
 Cyberdemon.
 Fire -- Choose target... The missile hits the Cyberdemon. The missile
 hits the Cyberdemon. The missile hits the Cyberdemon. The missile
 hits the Cyberdemon. The missile hits the Cyberdemon.
 Fire -- Choose target... The missile hits the Cyberdemon. The missile
 hits the Cyberdemon. The missile hits the Cyberdemon. The missile
 hits the Cyberdemon. The missile hits the Cyberdemon. The missile hits the
 Cyberdemon.
 Fire -- Choose target... The missile hits the Cyberdemon. The

-- General ---------------------------------------------------

 Before him 264 brave souls have ventured into Phobos:
 232 of those were killed.
 4 of those were killed by something unknown.
 2 didn't read the thermonuclear bomb manual.
 And 14 couldn't handle the stress and committed a stupid suicide.

 Some rumours though, say that the Cyberdemon was killed already!
 Is he immortal? 12 souls claim to have killed him...
 2 sacrificed itself for the good of mankind.
 9 killed the bastard and survived.
 1 showed that it can outsmart hell itself.

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*Changed these lines to reflect the fact that I did a no-hits run of him USING THE PLASMA RIFLE.
**I'm reasonably pleased that I got over 90% on AoMs.
***Note the pillar both me and the Cyberdemon were standing next to. I basically kited him around this (I moved faster than him with Malek's armor) and fired whenever he couldn't see me.
****A poor trait choice now that I look back on it.
*****Both of these items were never ever taken out of my equipment slots from the second I found them. The nuclear plasma rifle lets me scout without wasting ammo (And acts as a decent DPS weapon in a pinch), while Malek's armor is just pretty damn good.
*6 Note the lack of BFG. I didn't have enough HP to cross the lava and back in the Halls of Carnage, and I never saw the Spider's Lair (Because I would've fucking done it if I did)
*7 Hate. So much hate.
*8 You know, I never realised how easy this was to do on AoMs until I accidentally did it once (In the video-YASD)
*9 I DID know what to do! Fire rockets blindly until I saw a baron, turn running on and dash for the stairs! I got 30% XP for level 6 this way and didn't get hit.
*10 Feel free to lol at this.

Well, I'm finally Colonel, so that's great. The only condition for General is "Win on at least NIGHTMARE!" so I'm happy that I've got an excuse to play regular games again, though I'm not sure what "At least" NIGHTMARE! is supposed to mean.

If you've read the H AoMs mortem that the other guy posted today then you know my strategy essentially word for word. It works beautifully up until you find Arch-Vile packs, which is when you use your homing phase devices.

I started (And ended) the Cyberdemon fight on 12% HP with no BFG, which is just great. Seriously, that's awesome. My plasma rifle kills him in 64 shots, so I even have to reload at least once (Assuming that all of them hit, which they obviously don't), so I'm going to have to find a way to stall him for around 15.0 seconds. Easy, right?

Well, it turned out that it was kind of easy. My movespeed was 0.75 thanks to Malek's Armor, and the poor old Cybie moves at 0.9. Maybe 1.0, it's hard to tell. The point is that that's kiteable. So we run around a pillar over and over (Remembering from my AoRA game that the Cyberdemon is incredibly stupid when it comes to moving around pillars) with me stopping every 4 moves to shoot his dumb ass.

The big epiphany, so to speak, that made me win AoMs was the fact that "Holy shit, I get a guaranteed rocket launcher at level 3 now". The rocket launcher is just excellent because it kills most things in 1-3 shots and it doesn't miss as long as there's a wall nearby. As such, you can go to the left side of a map, fire it blindly right and get 20% XP without being in danger of losing a single hit point. You might lose a few powerups, but most of them are based around healing or preventing damage (Armor and berserk) which you obviously don't need.

Also I killed 4 revenants. That's 4 too many. The first one was on level 13. That's 88 levels too early.

The 7 mancubi were mostly chumps though, they move too slowly to be a real threat one on one. The only problem is when they ambush you or bring along friends. Luckily they drop rockets so I don't feel too wasteful blasting them in to oblivion.
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Re: [M|AoMs|StdWin|93%] Dear God Finally
« Reply #1 on: January 01, 2009, 21:40 »

Wow! I'm surprised you managed without that extra EE level and CE! I figured you'd accumulate too much damage without those, but I guess I was wrong. And yeh, good going on using the rockets, even in my AoMs run I probably hoarded them too much, resulting in much pain.
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Re: [M|AoMs|StdWin|93%] Dear God Finally
« Reply #2 on: January 02, 2009, 11:23 »

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Note the pillar both me and the Cyberdemon were standing next to. I basically kited him around this (I moved faster than him with Malek's armor) and fired whenever he couldn't see me.
I was once standing behind pillar on Cybie level. You know what ... he blasted pillar along with himself and me :P .
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Re: [M|AoMs|StdWin|93%] Dear God Finally
« Reply #3 on: January 10, 2009, 07:36 »

The big epiphany, so to speak, that made me win AoMs was the fact that "Holy shit, I get a guaranteed rocket launcher at level 3 now". The rocket launcher is just excellent because it kills most things in 1-3 shots and it doesn't miss as long as there's a wall nearby. As such, you can go to the left side of a map, fire it blindly right and get 20% XP without being in danger of losing a single hit point. You might lose a few powerups, but most of them are based around healing or preventing damage (Armor and berserk) which you obviously don't need.

I want to amend this.  Shoot blindly from the side (rockets truly shine in this challenge), but leave yourself a walled-in space somewhere nearby for retreating when you hear the demons' cries get louder.  This works even better with Cateye, natch.  By the way, I really hope Kornel improves the monster AI so that this cheesy strategy no longer works so well.

Also, a quibble on your strategy: EE is a far better starting skill than SoB.  Eagle Eye seems to kick your pistol from about a 50% accuracy to about a 75% one, for a 50% increase in damage (these are not exact figures, of course).  SoB(1) gives you 20% extra damage for a pistol (five plus one), or 25% (four plus one) for a creature with basic armor.  It gives you 28% extra damage for a chaingun (3.5 plus one per bullet), or 40% (2.5 plus one) for a creature with basic armor, and EE probably has a bigger impact on chaingun use than pistol use besides.  For shotgun characters, EE can be deferred or avoided, of course, but yours looks like a chaingun build.  Anyway, SoB is a midgame skill through and through: I think it should be acquired shortly before you find a plasma rifle, at character level six or so.

Edit: Oops, did I just lecture a moderator? :P
« Last Edit: January 10, 2009, 08:17 by Anarchic Fox »
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Re: [M|AoMs|StdWin|93%] Dear God Finally
« Reply #4 on: January 10, 2009, 18:03 »

Pistol doesn't need accuracy. The first level is cleared with the shotgun, point-blank range luring enemies into doorways as if you were playing AoB. TaN is good for that and helps you survive until you get the chaingun in Hell's Arena. Usually you get a lvlup there and can then take EE.
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Re: [M|AoMs|StdWin|93%] Dear God Finally
« Reply #5 on: January 11, 2009, 11:11 »

Pistol doesn't need accuracy. The first level is cleared with the shotgun, point-blank range luring enemies into doorways as if you were playing AoB. TaN is good for that and helps you survive until you get the chaingun in Hell's Arena. Usually you get a lvlup there and can then take EE.

I tend to switch between pistol and shotgun depending on the enemy's distance.  Mainly I use the pistol (or assault shotgun if I find it), to kill enemies at range.  In AoMs the first five or so character levels come quickly enough for me not to use a cautious strategy like in AoB, except when I reach Hell's Arena.

I honestly don't know how to compare the usefulness of TaN and EE... EE stands out as an offensive trait, but depending on play style (e.g. shotgun specialists) defense might be far better.  Also (though this doesn't matter as much in AoMs) EE gets you to Cateye and Intuition, the great tactical skills.
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Re: [M|AoMs|StdWin|93%] Dear God Finally
« Reply #6 on: January 11, 2009, 15:18 »

Cateye is cheap, and Intuition brings to mind the cheat from the original game that marks all monsters on the map. (of course, that cheat crashes the game on the playstation port)
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