Chaosforge Forum

  • April 28, 2024, 08:10
  • Welcome, Guest
Please login or register.



Login with username, password and session length
Pages: [1]

Author Topic: [N!|AoMs|62%|YAVP] Now we're talking!  (Read 5226 times)

Gulthorpe

  • Elder
  • Private FC
  • *
  • *
  • Offline Offline
  • Posts: 17
    • View Profile
[N!|AoMs|62%|YAVP] Now we're talking!
« on: October 04, 2009, 09:36 »

--------------------------------------------------------------
 DoomRL (v.0.9.8.10) roguelike post-mortem character dump
--------------------------------------------------------------

 Timo Viitanen, level 13 Cacodemon General, defeated the Cyberdemon
 on level 25 of the Phobos base.
 He survived 52998 turns and scored 529976 points.
 He opposed the Nightmare!

 He killed 784 out of 1247 hellspawn. (62%)
 He was an Angel of Masochism!


-- Graveyard -------------------------------------------------

  ###########################################################
  #..........................................................
  #..........................................................
  #...............###........................................
  #...............###......................................##
  #.....X..........##..........###.........................##
  #............................###.........................##
  #............}|..............###...........................
  #.............|................................###.........
  #.........##..|.....................###........###.........
  #.........###.......................###...###..###.........
  #.........###....###...........###..###...#>#...........###
  #................###...........###........###...........###
  #................###..###......###......................###
  #.....................###..................................
  #.....................###..........................###.....
  #..................................................###.....
  #..................................................###.....
  #..........................................................
  ###########################################################

-- Statistics ------------------------------------------------

  Health 80/80   Experience 76360/13
  ToHit +6  ToDmg Ranged +3  ToDmg Melee +3

-- Traits ----------------------------------------------------

    Ironman        (Level 3)
    Hellrunner     (Level 2)
    Son of a bitch (Level 3)
    Eagle Eye      (Level 3)
    Cateye         (Level 2)

  EE->EE->SoB->SoB->Cat->SoB->EE->Cat->Iro->Iro->Iro->HR->HR->

-- Equipment -------------------------------------------------

    [a] [ Armor      ]   blue armor [2/2] (76%)
    [b] [ Weapon     ]   modified plasma rifle (1d8)x8 [8/40] (A1)
    [c] [ Boots      ]   modified protective boots [2/2] (100%) (M)
    [d] [ Prepared   ]   extended plasma rifle (1d8)x8 [36/60]

-- Inventory -------------------------------------------------

    [a] advanced chaingun (1d6)x5 [50/50]
    [b] blue armor [2/2] (100%)
    [c] blue armor [2/2] (100%)
    [d] blue armor [2/2] (100%)
    [e] modified red armor [2/4] (33%) (D)
    [f] red armor [2/4] (46%)
    [g] modified red armor [2/4] (38%) (D)
    [h] 10mm ammo (x10)
    [i] 10mm ammo (x100)
    [j] 10mm ammo (x100)
    [k] 10mm ammo (x100)
    [l] 10mm ammo (x100)
    [m] 10mm ammo (x100)
    [n] 10mm ammo (x100)
    [o] 10mm ammo (x100)
    [p] rocket (x6)
    [q] phase device

-- Kills -----------------------------------------------------

    87 former humans
    83 former sergeants
    29 former captains
    99 imps
    33 demons
    63 lost souls
    28 cacodemons
    17 barons of hell
    1 Cyberdemon
    25 hell knights
    18 arachnotrons
    14 former commandos
    11 pain elementals
    18 arch-viles
    18 mancubi
    21 revenants

-- History ---------------------------------------------------

  He started his journey on the surface of Phobos.
  On level 5 he stormed the Chained Court.
  On level 10 he witnessed the Wall.
  Not knowing what to do, he left.
  On level 16 he invaded the Unholy Cathedral!
  He fled the Unholy Cathedral seeing no chance to win.
  On level 23 he entered the Lava Pits.
  He decided it was too hot there.
  Then at last he found Phobos Arena!
  On level 25 he finally defeated the Cyberdemon.

-- Messages --------------------------------------------------

 Cyberdemon. The missile hits the Cyberdemon. The missile hits the
 Cyberdemon. The missile hits the Cyberdemon. The missile hits the
 Cyberdemon. The Cyberdemon reloads his rocket launcher.
 Fire -- Choose target... The missile hits the Cyberdemon. The missile hits
 the Cyberdemon. The missile hits the Cyberdemon. The missile hits the
 Cyberdemon. The missile hits the Cyberdemon. The missile hits the
 Cyberdemon. The missile hits the Cyberdemon. The missile hits the
 Cyberdemon.
 Fire -- Choose target... The missile hits the Cyberdemon. The missile hits
 the Cyberdemon. The missile hits the Cyberdemon. The missile hits the
 Cyberdemon. The missile hits the Cyberdemon. The missile hits the
 Cyberdemon. The missile hits the Cyberdemon. The missile hits the
 Cyberdemon.
 Fire -- Choose target... The missile hits the Cyberdemon. The missile hits
 the Cyberdemon. The missile hits the Cyberdemon. The Cyberdemon dies.

-- General ---------------------------------------------------

 Before him 200 brave souls have ventured into Phobos:
 169 of those were killed.
 4 of those were killed by something unknown.
 5 didn't read the thermonuclear bomb manual.
 And 11 couldn't handle the stress and committed a stupid suicide.

 Some rumours though, say that the Cyberdemon was killed already!
 Is he immortal? 11 souls claim to have killed him...
 3 sacrificed itself for the good of mankind.
 8 killed the bastard and survived.

--------------------------------------------------------------




This run was lucky although I didn't find any uniques. I cleared 2 levels past L20 while invulnerable. It's so much fun running between 5 V's and multiple R and M while invulnerable and watch them kill each other. I was still invulnerable when i fought Cybie so not much of a fight there either.

I got this through with about 10 tries. Not that much compared to about 30 which I needed for N! AoLT, the only other N! win (well if you don't count AoPc) which I've got. One of my tries got to L16 with Necro Armor found when I died with 99% of experience needed to level-up gained.

N! AoMs is 100% fun. not like AoB where it's more or less about luck on the early levels. this becomes harder with each level descended.

Can't wait for the new version. This game is so much fun.
Logged

Dervis

  • Nightmare Berserker
  • Elder
  • Major
  • *
  • *
  • Offline Offline
  • Posts: 321
    • View Profile
Re: [N!|AoMs|62%|YAVP] Now we're talking!
« Reply #1 on: October 04, 2009, 10:40 »

Good job, AoMs is a really tough challenge to beat.
Logged

Gulthorpe

  • Elder
  • Private FC
  • *
  • *
  • Offline Offline
  • Posts: 17
    • View Profile
Re: [N!|AoMs|62%|YAVP] Now we're talking!
« Reply #2 on: October 04, 2009, 13:30 »

Good job, AoMs is a really tough challenge to beat.

Thank you.

I don't know but for me this was alot easier than for example winning AoB on medium difficulty. I don't think that I could ever get even close to winning N! AoB. I've tried N! AoI but that seems really hard too because you don't get early healings as often as on AoMs. Oh well, maybe it's just my playing style.
Logged

Aki

  • Marketing/PR and Wiki Ops
  • Elder
  • Major General
  • *
  • *
  • Offline Offline
  • Posts: 969
    • View Profile
Re: [N!|AoMs|62%|YAVP] Now we're talking!
« Reply #3 on: October 04, 2009, 13:31 »

I'm sure that this fits the requirements for Masochist Platinum, at least.

Could you have done it without Ironman as well as without TaN? You would have gotten Masochist Diamond in 9.9.
Logged
[0.9.9.7]
Rank: Arch-Vile Lt. General
Badges: [22/17/15/10/4/0]

Gulthorpe

  • Elder
  • Private FC
  • *
  • *
  • Offline Offline
  • Posts: 17
    • View Profile
Re: [N!|AoMs|62%|YAVP] Now we're talking!
« Reply #4 on: October 04, 2009, 13:39 »

I'm sure that this fits the requirements for Masochist Platinum, at least.

Could you have done it without Ironman as well as without TaN? You would have gotten Masochist Diamond in 9.9.

Not on this game at least. My health was down to ~4% at some point (maybe ~L17). After that point I wasn't even close to dying thanks to many invulnerability globes

But it sure is possible. You just have to be really careful. Masochist diamond sure is possible to get and not even close to the hardest of the diamond badges i assume.
Logged

Aki

  • Marketing/PR and Wiki Ops
  • Elder
  • Major General
  • *
  • *
  • Offline Offline
  • Posts: 969
    • View Profile
Re: [N!|AoMs|62%|YAVP] Now we're talking!
« Reply #5 on: October 04, 2009, 13:47 »

The easiest (But requiring the most RNG love) Would be Veteran Diamond ;)
Logged
[0.9.9.7]
Rank: Arch-Vile Lt. General
Badges: [22/17/15/10/4/0]

Dervis

  • Nightmare Berserker
  • Elder
  • Major
  • *
  • *
  • Offline Offline
  • Posts: 321
    • View Profile
Re: [N!|AoMs|62%|YAVP] Now we're talking!
« Reply #6 on: October 04, 2009, 15:31 »

I'm sure that this fits the requirements for Masochist Platinum, at least.

Could you have done it without Ironman as well as without TaN? You would have gotten Masochist Diamond in 9.9.

The dominant build in 0.9.8.10 (Cateye-SoB) hasn't quite made it into 0.9.9 so you shouldn't take this game as example for badges.
Logged

Aki

  • Marketing/PR and Wiki Ops
  • Elder
  • Major General
  • *
  • *
  • Offline Offline
  • Posts: 969
    • View Profile
Re: [N!|AoMs|62%|YAVP] Now we're talking!
« Reply #7 on: October 04, 2009, 17:19 »

Stupid me didn't even look at the build >_<

Have fun with your SoB -> EE -> SoB -> TH :P
Logged
[0.9.9.7]
Rank: Arch-Vile Lt. General
Badges: [22/17/15/10/4/0]

Gulthorpe

  • Elder
  • Private FC
  • *
  • *
  • Offline Offline
  • Posts: 17
    • View Profile
Re: [N!|AoMs|62%|YAVP] Now we're talking!
« Reply #8 on: October 05, 2009, 01:03 »

You're right Dervis. Cateye is dominant. Just thinking though, could Intuition 2 with cateye 1 replace cateye 2. Ammo isn't much of a problem if you stack it even a little.

Build could be:

EE->SoB->EE->SoB->SoB->Int->Int->Thappy->Cateye->EE->etc.

that's 9 levels so you could get it at maybe L15. Not long after V's really start to appear in masses.

With this build you also really wouldn't have to bother about TaN or Ironman. TaN is locked and who needs Ironman anyway (we all do). Maybe with Cateye needing Triggerhappy one could start to like TH.
« Last Edit: October 05, 2009, 05:16 by Gulthorpe »
Logged

Gulthorpe

  • Elder
  • Private FC
  • *
  • *
  • Offline Offline
  • Posts: 17
    • View Profile
Re: [N!|AoMs|62%|YAVP] Now we're talking!
« Reply #9 on: October 17, 2009, 14:24 »


Build could be:

EE->SoB->EE->SoB->SoB->Int->Int->Thappy->Cateye->EE->etc.


I've now played a few N! AoMs games with a build like this. In 0.9.9 things aren't as easy in the first 5 or so levels as they used to be. I got one character going really well just to die on L9 on an Arachno cave.

My latest build that I've tried to get has been (with which I easily won H AoMs a few hours earlier):

EE->EE->Int->Int->SoB->SoB->Th->CE->SoB->Th->HR (->HR->HR).

I managed to get to EE->EE->Int->Int->SoB->SoB in that aforementioned game but spawning next to 6 A's is basicly death. With Th and CE added to those traits things start to be rather easy, althoug time consuming, as long as you don't run out of ammo or spawn next to lots of enemies. The former can be dealt with spamming reviving corpses but the latter needs abit of luck.

I've also tried builds when I get 1 or 2 levels of SoB before Intuition but the better runs have been with EE->EE->Int->Int->SoB. Anyhow, you need some luck to get to Chained Court.

In "brief" winning this is easy:

when you're not Berserking or Invulnerable corner shoot, hide and try to fight without taking damage. With Int 2 (and CE) this is rather easy as long as you have some luck with level layouts. If you get lucky and there's a water flooding lever try to clear the level. If there's not try to search the level as much as possible but don't return to places you've already been.

Remember to not let lots of enemies between you and stairs once you find them. When you get past L10-L12 and Character L8 don't fight enemies if you don't have to and you're not zerking or invulnerable (at least this way it was better in the previous version). The hell levels are easier because there's lots of lava and acid and the enemies can't get to you.

OK, enough talking. Lets get back to Masochist Diamond Badge hunting.
Logged
Pages: [1]