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Finally wielded DragonSlayer! (plus more RNG love)
« on: September 22, 2010, 15:33 »

At last, I'm among the dragonslayers! After failing so many times in the past, I finally figured out the criteria for wielding it.

My current AO100 run features an onyx-modded cybernetic armour and dragonslayer, making me wish to god that I was playing on N! instead of UV. Ah well, I still think this one is completely in the bag, and yes, I do know the implications that saying such a thing has. Bring it on RNG! Give it your best shot! For the first time in my DoomRL career I'm not at all scared of you! :)

(Edit: I just ran through lava towards a pack of arch viles and mancubi... Killed them without dropping below 100% health!)

(Edit 2: Good god, this thing is absolutely ridiculous)

(Edit 3: onyx cybernetic armour + dragonslayer is still nowhere near as powerful as that time I got a nano-packed railgun)
« Last Edit: September 22, 2010, 19:50 by Sylph »
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Re: Finally wielded DragonSlayer! (plus more RNG love)
« Reply #1 on: September 22, 2010, 18:17 »

I'd hate to be the one to say this, but "Pix or it didn't happen".

A screen shot at the very least, a mortem when you are done.  Hahahaha...
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Re: Finally wielded DragonSlayer! (plus more RNG love)
« Reply #2 on: September 22, 2010, 23:46 »

Heh, you found and pushed the "I win" button. I still play around the idea of adding the Berserker Armor, and Cannon Arm. Now THAT would be a set :P.
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Re: Finally wielded DragonSlayer! (plus more RNG love)
« Reply #3 on: September 23, 2010, 04:24 »

Actually Kornel, I'm pretty sure, as I go into deeper levels, that my Ao100 run has become *harder* from picking this up. Like I said in my edit3, above, there are far more powerful weapons to use, like a nano-packed railgun (or a nano-packed rocket launcher, even).
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Re: Finally wielded DragonSlayer! (plus more RNG love)
« Reply #4 on: September 23, 2010, 06:07 »

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Actually Kornel, I'm pretty sure, as I go into deeper levels, that my Ao100 run has become *harder* from picking this up. Like I said in my edit3, above, there are far more powerful weapons to use, like a nano-packed railgun (or a nano-packed rocket launcher, even).
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Re: Finally wielded DragonSlayer! (plus more RNG love)
« Reply #5 on: September 23, 2010, 06:30 »

Fanta - wouldn't that end up doing so much damage to the level, that you get shot up by mancubi and viles later on? It looks be be an amazing weapon, but would you say it trumps a nano railgun?

I'm bored with this character now, so I'll probably retire without even finishing. It's frustrating to be running around after viles and revenants while mancubi blast them all away from you, and I always found melee boring in doomrl (If I wanted melee, I'd be playing adom). :)




I'd hate to be the one to say this, but "Pix or it didn't happen".

A screen shot at the very least, a mortem when you are done.  Hahahaha...


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Re: Finally wielded DragonSlayer! (plus more RNG love)
« Reply #6 on: September 23, 2010, 06:54 »

Hm... maybe you have to wield Cybernetic Armor to be able to wield Dragonslayer? :D
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Re: Finally wielded DragonSlayer! (plus more RNG love)
« Reply #7 on: September 23, 2010, 06:55 »

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Re: Finally wielded DragonSlayer! (plus more RNG love)
« Reply #8 on: September 23, 2010, 22:54 »

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Re: Finally wielded DragonSlayer! (plus more RNG love)
« Reply #9 on: September 23, 2010, 23:14 »

I dunno, as awesome as the rest of it is, nano-BFG will still take a crapload of time to restock its ammo. It seems to me that the regeneration of equipment comes at one per "action unit of time", which is some separately-defined amount of time dependent on each action, which is in turn dependent on mods and boosts and such. As a result, the only time I have NOT seen equipment recharge at one/action is during berserk, where actions appear to be roughly halved (meaning it would only recharge at a rate of one per two actions). For a weapon that takes 40 cells per shot, recharging is a rather large hindrance: the only saving grace is that nano-charging weapons are not limited by self-sustaining ammo only and can be refilled when necessary (contrast: nuclear weapons, blaster). Nano-Railgun would face the same problem but on a greatly-reduced scale.

Honestly, if you could GET that? Assuming the enemies will even survive five shots, all you need is some cover and you're golden. As a wide-scale annihilator, there is no better killing machine. (Seriously, 13d8/~0.60sec, with like a 10-tile blast radius, you wouldn't need five shots to clear freaking N! Mortuary.)

Given a simpler option, I'd love to get my hands on a P3N1 combat/assault shotty. 10d3 at a distance and infinite shells ensure a complete victory if you're careful enough.

In practice, however, I haven't seen better than a MAc-fueled BFG10K from my N! A100 run. That thing rips up the game. If I did manage Cyber-nano and DS, I think that would trump it. (Unfortunately, BFG10K has a wicked kick that occasionally hurts you.)

I'm bored with this character now, so I'll probably retire without even finishing. It's frustrating to be running around after viles and revenants while mancubi blast them all away from you, and I always found melee boring in doomrl (If I wanted melee, I'd be playing adom). :)
Just because you have an ultimate combo doesn't mean you have to go for YAAM (or at least YAAM since you picked it up). Rushing for stairs can make the game go by pretty quickly, even on A100.
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Re: Finally wielded DragonSlayer! (plus more RNG love)
« Reply #10 on: September 24, 2010, 06:27 »

Yeah, finally the BFG10K is the asskicker it should be.
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Re: Finally wielded DragonSlayer! (plus more RNG love)
« Reply #11 on: September 24, 2010, 07:38 »

Nano-packed rocket launcher? Is this possible? Pair it with dodgemaster and you're an untouchable demolition man! That would be something to impress the ladies!
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Re: Finally wielded DragonSlayer! (plus more RNG love)
« Reply #12 on: September 24, 2010, 11:06 »

Nano-packed rocket launcher? Is this possible? Pair it with dodgemaster and you're an untouchable demolition man! That would be something to impress the ladies!
Or you could get the Mother-In-Law...
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Re: Finally wielded DragonSlayer! (plus more RNG love)
« Reply #13 on: September 24, 2010, 15:20 »

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Just because you have an ultimate combo doesn't mean you have to go for YAAM (or at least YAAM since you picked it up). Rushing for stairs can make the game go by pretty quickly, even on A100.
I was going to go for YAAM before I even got the armour/dragonslayer, but after running dragonslayer for about 15 levels, I started just running for the stairs and gave up on YAAM from boredom. Another 10 levels or so later, I just gave up. Been having much more fun with AoMr games to get my badges back (I lost my savefiles last year)...

I wish there were more 'general' badges though - I enjoy all-round juggler builds more than challenge games, but there aren't that many challenges simply for 'normal game'...
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Re: Finally wielded DragonSlayer! (plus more RNG love)
« Reply #14 on: September 24, 2010, 22:59 »

How did you get bored? I LOVED making my enemies flee in terror when I had picked it up.
I always smiled as I knew that for the first times in their un-lives, every creature in hell knew the taste of fear so badly, you could see it in their eyes. and that's hard to do when they don't have any eyes to see the fear in.

Granted, you get sick of seeing red, but I think it's worth it.


Heh, you found and pushed the "I win" button. I still play around the idea of adding the Berserker Armor, and Cannon Arm. Now THAT would be a set :P.

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