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[0.9.9.3 Win] Cyberdemon vs Napalm Launcher
« on: May 23, 2011, 07:38 »

I was playing HNTR AoI, and by the time I got to the Cybie I was short on cells, but I had Intuition and rockets, so I grabbed the napalm launcher and started firing towards his position. After a few shots I noticed that he wasn't moving anymore. So I came closer and he wasn't even shooting.

After that he was just staying still in the large pool of lava outside my FOV while I was gunning him down to get my free buggy Cyberdemon's head.

Here's the mortem, just in case.
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 DoomRL (v.0.9.9.3) roguelike post-mortem character dump
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 Dash, level 10 Cacodemon 2nd Lieutenant, defeated the Cyberdemon
 on level 25 of the Phobos base.
 He survived 152548 turns and scored 99251 points.
 He played for 3 hours, 5 minutes and 44 seconds.
 He didn't like it too rough.

 He killed 580 out of 649 hellspawn. (89%)
 He was an Angel of Impatience!


 He saved himself 4 times.

-- Special levels --------------------------------------------

  Levels generated : 8
  Levels visited   : 6
  Levels completed : 4

-- Awards ----------------------------------------------------

  Cyberdemon's Head
  UAC Star (bronze cluster)
  Hell Champion Medal
  Hell Armorer Badge
  Eagerness Silver Badge

-- Graveyard -------------------------------------------------

  ###########################################################
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  #.............###..........X..................###..........
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  ###########################################################

-- Statistics ------------------------------------------------

  Health 83/50   Experience 49522/10
  ToHit Ranged +4  ToHit Melee +4  ToDmg Ranged +0  ToDmg Melee +0

-- Traits ----------------------------------------------------

    Tough as nails   (Level 3)
    Son of a gun     (Level 2)
    Eagle Eye        (Level 2)
    Intuition        (Level 2)
    Badass           (Level 1)

  TaN->EE->TaN->Bad->EE->Int->Int->TaN->SoG->SoG->

-- Equipment -------------------------------------------------

    [a] [ Armor      ]   plate armor [8]
    [b] [ Weapon     ]   modified rocket launcher (6d6) [0/1] (T1)
    [c] [ Boots      ]   tactical boots [1/1] (100%)
    [d] [ Prepared   ]   modified plasma rifle (1d8)x6 [0/40] (P1)

-- Inventory -------------------------------------------------

    [a] modified combat shotgun (7d3) [6/6] (B1)
    [b] gatling gun (1d7)x6 [0/52]
    [c] modified tristar blaster (4d6)x3 [0/45] (P1)
    [d] nuclear BFG 9000 (8d8) [2/40]
    [e] modified napalm launcher (7d8) [1/1] (P1)
    [f] modified BFG 9000 (10d8) [0/130] (B1)
    [g] modified red armor [6/6] (100%) (P)
    [h] shotgun shell (x41)
    [i] shotgun shell (x50)
    [j] shotgun shell (x50)
    [k] rocket (x3)

-- Kills -----------------------------------------------------

    89 former humans
    83 former sergeants
    28 former captains
    73 imps
    70 demons
    106 lost souls
    31 cacodemons
    16 barons of hell
    1 Cyberdemon
    26 hell knights
    15 arachnotrons
    4 former commandos
    7 pain elementals
    12 arch-viles
    9 mancubi
    6 revenants
    2 bruiser brothers
    1 shambler
    1 Arena Master

-- History ---------------------------------------------------

  He started his journey on the surface of Phobos.
  On level 2 he entered Hell's Arena.
  He left the Arena as a champion!
  On level 6 he stormed the Chained Court.
  He defeated the Hell Arena Master!
  On level 10 he entered Hell's Armory.
  On level 10 he assembled a gatling gun!
  On level 10 he assembled a tactical boots!
  On level 10 he assembled a plate armor!
  He destroyed the evil within and reaped the rewards!
  On level 13 he ventured into the Halls of Carnage.
  On level 15 he encountered the Phobos Hellgate.
  On level 19 he entered the Vaults.
  He managed to scavenge a part of the Vaults treasures.
  On level 22 he was foolish enough to enter the Mortuary!
  He managed to escape from the Mortuary!
  Then at last he found Phobos Arena!
  On level 25 he finally defeated the Cyberdemon.

-- Messages --------------------------------------------------

 Fire -- Choose target...
 You see : out of vision
 Fire -- Choose target...
 You see : out of vision
 Fire -- Choose target...
 You see : out of vision
 Fire -- Choose target...
 You see : out of vision
 You swap your weapon.
 Fire -- Choose target...
 You see : out of vision
 You reload the rocket launcher with rocket.
 Fire -- Choose target...
 You see : out of vision
 You hear the scream of a freed soul! You feel relatively safe now.
 Congratulations! You defeated the Cyberdemon! Press <Enter>...

-- General ---------------------------------------------------

 Before him 76 brave souls have ventured into Phobos:
 67 of those were killed.
 1 of those was killed by something unknown.

 And 3 couldn't handle the stress and committed a stupid suicide.

 Some rumours though, say that the Cyberdemon was killed already!
 Is he immortal? 5 souls claim to have killed him...
 5 killed the bastard and survived.

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Re: [0.9.9.3 Win] Cyberdemon vs Napalm Launcher
« Reply #1 on: May 23, 2011, 08:48 »

Thanks for the report - I believe this scenario was noted during the beta phase and deferred pending AI overhauls
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Re: [0.9.9.3 Win] Cyberdemon vs Napalm Launcher
« Reply #2 on: May 23, 2011, 12:22 »

Napalm melts the pillars? *Files away for later use*
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Re: [0.9.9.3 Win] Cyberdemon vs Napalm Launcher
« Reply #3 on: May 23, 2011, 12:36 »

Of course it does. The primary blast from a napalm launcher is a huge wad of fire damage.
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Re: [0.9.9.3 Win] Cyberdemon vs Napalm Launcher
« Reply #4 on: May 23, 2011, 15:48 »

The usual set of destructive methods work on Phobos Arena pillars.
However, *the* pillar remains indestrucable.
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Re: [0.9.9.3 Win] Cyberdemon vs Napalm Launcher
« Reply #5 on: May 23, 2011, 16:23 »

So you mean napalm can't destroy it?
Man... that is one heck of a tough pillar. :P
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Re: [0.9.9.3 Win] Cyberdemon vs Napalm Launcher
« Reply #6 on: May 23, 2011, 21:01 »

If I'm reading this correctly, this is not a response reserved only for the Cyberdemon. Monsters of all descriptions (except for demons) tend not to path around (or through) hurtfloors if there is a solid enough wall of them between them and you.
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Re: [0.9.9.3 Win] Cyberdemon vs Napalm Launcher
« Reply #7 on: May 23, 2011, 21:24 »

I think the problem is that Cybie should still be firing
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Re: [0.9.9.3 Win] Cyberdemon vs Napalm Launcher
« Reply #8 on: May 24, 2011, 00:56 »

Very few things fire at the player from outside line of sight, and he had Int2.
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Re: [0.9.9.3 Win] Cyberdemon vs Napalm Launcher
« Reply #9 on: May 24, 2011, 01:59 »

Very few things fire at the player from outside line of sight, and he had Int2.

And Cybie is one of those things, no? I saw him standing just one tile away from my line of sight - I think he usually does fire at you at that distance.

Of course, he might be kinda shocked to see a marine with SoG2 and no pistols...
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Re: [0.9.9.3 Win] Cyberdemon vs Napalm Launcher
« Reply #10 on: May 24, 2011, 02:52 »

And Cybie is one of those things, no? I saw him standing just one tile away from my line of sight - I think he usually does fire at you at that distance.

Of course, he might be kinda shocked to see a marine with SoG2 and no pistols...
Considering that it fires rockets and is only 1 tile from you, I don't think he will fire though...
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Re: [0.9.9.3 Win] Cyberdemon vs Napalm Launcher
« Reply #11 on: May 24, 2011, 02:53 »

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Fire -- Choose target...
 You see : out of vision
I think he was a bit further away...

Cybie cannot not attack from out of sight, instead he will try to move towards you.
He knows your location but he will not move into hurtfloors even if it's the only way OFF a hurtfloor. This is a holdover from his vintage baron-based AI (they act the same way surrounded with hurtfloors).
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Re: [0.9.9.3 Win] Cyberdemon vs Napalm Launcher
« Reply #12 on: May 24, 2011, 04:29 »

Cybie cannot attack from out of sight

OK, I see. Somehow I thought he could.
If that's the case, the only problem is indeed him not being able to move. Everything else is fine. Thanks for explanation anyway.
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Re: [0.9.9.3 Win] Cyberdemon vs Napalm Launcher
« Reply #13 on: May 25, 2011, 01:47 »

Considering that it fires rockets and is only 1 tile from you, I don't think he will fire though...
Monsters will consider firing at you any time they (a) can see you (b) are not next to you. Even if you're two squares away and they have radius 2 or greater on their ranged attack. (Cybie is immune to his own rockets, but bruisers, at least, are not immune to their own acid balls; I've seen one deal itself the killing blow.)
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