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Author Topic: I hate to start another thread about the Dragonslayer but ugh  (Read 17505 times)

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Re: I hate to start another thread about the Dragonslayer but ugh
« Reply #15 on: December 08, 2011, 12:13 »

yeah I figure it after reading the entry but whit my shitty luck on uniques the sword never swamp for good sake RGN stop trolling me xD
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Re: I hate to start another thread about the Dragonslayer but ugh
« Reply #16 on: December 08, 2011, 12:27 »

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Vampyre? :P

"No ordinary human."
No need to be a vampyre, it's easy :D (spoilers on berserk manga below)
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Re: I hate to start another thread about the Dragonslayer but ugh
« Reply #17 on: December 08, 2011, 14:30 »

I thought that was for the Silent Glaive. Damn intercontinuity crossovers.

Hey, that reminds me, I've got something to add to the Horrible Ideas Thread...
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Re: I hate to start another thread about the Dragonslayer but ugh
« Reply #18 on: December 08, 2011, 15:07 »

Well I can say vampyre/no weapons won't work either. Screw it. If yall want to have your secret club then whatever. I'm giving up on trying to wield this stupid thing.
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Re: I hate to start another thread about the Dragonslayer but ugh
« Reply #19 on: December 08, 2011, 17:42 »

Well I can say vampyre/no weapons won't work either. Screw it. If yall want to have your secret club then whatever. I'm giving up on trying to wield this stupid thing.
First thing I'll do when the DoomRL source/core game modding tools come out is remove the horrible, horrible injoke.

As well as add silly and retarded assemblies, such as the ammo crapper.
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Re: I hate to start another thread about the Dragonslayer but ugh
« Reply #20 on: December 08, 2011, 19:44 »

I've never wielded the Dragonslayer (legitimately anyway, it's part of the IDKFA cheat but eh). I've probably seen it twice, ever, in any game at all. Even knowing what it does and how to get it, my reaction was summarized by an "okay cool" and not much else. Like a lot of stuff in the game, it can make things WAY too easy, which isn't the kind of fun I have with this game anyway.

Whenever people ask me how to get it, I just tell them to figure out what inspired it: this is more than enough to bring the conditions to a small set of possibilities, all of which can be feasibly attained and/or employed in the course of a single game. I don't really care whether or not it's a secret, but I also don't want to betray Kornel's trust by leaking it. Ultimately it's his decision.

First thing I'll do when the DoomRL source/core game modding tools come out is remove the horrible, horrible injoke.
As is totally expected, then, the current modding tools (0.9.9.4) allow you to spawn any item you want...except the Dragonslayer and Berserker Armor.
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Re: I hate to start another thread about the Dragonslayer but ugh
« Reply #21 on: December 08, 2011, 20:12 »

I've yet to figure out it's new requirements but I think it's all in the traits...

As far as the source material goes I have read all of it (it starts great, turns to complete crap for an extended flashback and then gets better several volumes later)
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Re: I hate to start another thread about the Dragonslayer but ugh
« Reply #22 on: December 12, 2011, 01:40 »

Look, there is a simple rule about DS: "Every character can wear it."
So, you should think, what are the general rules to wear it, than everything will be simple.
BTW. I think that berserk armor should be remade. 4 def is not that cool.
It's better to run with cerberus armor / Gothic armor. (And only on the last level wear BA)
Also AA should have some resists as well.
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Re: I hate to start another thread about the Dragonslayer but ugh
« Reply #23 on: December 12, 2011, 04:22 »

BTW. I think that berserk armor should be remade. 4 def is not that cool.
The Berserker Armour's defense is actually pretty interesting. If you only noticed a defense of 4, you probably weren't paying close enough attention to it. :3
Assuming it's been unchanged since .992, that is.
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Re: I hate to start another thread about the Dragonslayer but ugh
« Reply #24 on: December 12, 2011, 07:27 »

I also noticed UE Btw. and Apostle.
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Re: I hate to start another thread about the Dragonslayer but ugh
« Reply #25 on: December 12, 2011, 10:51 »

That reminds me, the only non-exploiting way to get Longinus Diamond seems to be getting the DS at exactly DLevel 16. :P
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Re: I hate to start another thread about the Dragonslayer but ugh
« Reply #26 on: December 13, 2011, 04:08 »

I remember when I first saw the DS.

I picked it up, and became a god. 

Combine permazerk with gravity boots, and you can take up to 7 steps per ArchVile attack.  The mortuary was literally taking turns shooting at me.

Easiest endgame I've ever had in my life.

I've never been told explicitly not to tell anyone what the pickup requirements are, but I'm assuming posting them on this forum is a bad idea.  But, I will say that if a Dragonslayer spawns, it is pretty likely that you'll have the means to pick it up there and then.
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Re: I hate to start another thread about the Dragonslayer but ugh
« Reply #27 on: December 13, 2011, 16:43 »

Gee, OBVIOUSLY you just have to be BERSERK when you pick it up.

I mean that sounds simple enough, right? Well, maybe if it was that easy then it wouldn't be such a secret.
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Re: I hate to start another thread about the Dragonslayer but ugh
« Reply #28 on: December 13, 2011, 16:55 »

Gee, OBVIOUSLY you just have to be BERSERK when you pick it up.

I mean that sounds simple enough, right? Well, maybe if it was that easy then it wouldn't be such a secret.
Been there, tried that. If it's a requirement, it's not the only one.

After some digging through old DS mortems, and finding some commonalities between them, plus what people have been saying around the forums, I think I know how to wield the Dragonslayer and wear the Berserker Armor. But I'm not 100% certain, and I won't spill it on the forums.
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Re: I hate to start another thread about the Dragonslayer but ugh
« Reply #29 on: December 13, 2011, 22:07 »

Yeah, I'm not allowed to post it on these forums. =|
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