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ultimate26:
I am trying to understand how to make a shotty build but it feels as if its a lacking option in everyway!

When you use EE or Intuition, all the weapons can benefit from it hugely allowing you to be flexible, but if you are a shotty build then EE becomes useless!

On top of that, going full shotty build and having a side weapon to fight with makes it very difficult because you will be carrying 2 ammo types and you wont have much accuracy and inventory space unless you heavily mod your ranged weapons.

So, how about adding a new gun type or Alt-fire for the shotgun shells?  many games have the shotgun slugs which is a single big shell used for mid range.

Long reload times but its a viable way to deal with shotties natural weakness.

random unrelated note, cant we make double shotty shoot one shell at a time with alt fire? would be good if you could shoot twice separately for more strategic advantage.

what do you guys think?

Uranium:
EE is useless for shotguns, but Intuition is one of the most useful traits for shotgunners (and indeed, players in general) as it removes need for scouting with your shotgun. There was a request for shotguns to have their way of hitting changed from a guaranteed hit to (something along the lines of) the shotgun rolling for a hit on each enemy within it's cone.

Personally, I'm fine with the current way of shotguns working, and the range weakness should stay, because when you play a shotty build you're sacrificing range for raw power.

And I think the double-shotgun's alt-fire does make it shoot a single shell.

AlterAsc:
I think it's not needed.

--- Quote ---if you are a shotty build then EE becomes useless!
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Well, actually it still gives +2 to accuracy which is the same as for non-shotty builds.
After all (unless on AoSh) you're not limited to shotguns only.
Another thing: define shotty build.Build with shotgun master trait?Then EE is blocked anyway.Build with Shottyman?Then what's the problem of taking EE?
Using shotguns only, taking EE and saying it's useless is basically the same as playing melee and saying Reloader is useless, or for rapid-fire Son of a Gun is useless.
It is true, but that's not a game problem, it's just not all traits are useful for any purpose.Moreover, taking EE with shotty build makes you more proficien in non-shotgun combat.
And the fact that shotguns never miss, but their damage drop with distance is their unique property.I'm probably against this shotgun slug idea.

--- Quote ---On top of that, going full shotty build and having a side weapon to fight with makes it very difficult because you will be carrying 2 ammo types and you wont have much accuracy and inventory space unless you heavily mod your ranged weapons.
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I believe it is common to have at least two types of ammo anyway.
And since you took shotty build then your shotgun rules.Or at least supposed to.With MAD it rocks.With shottyhead you have juggler(instaswitch ftw), with MFa you can just ignore lots of normally problematic enemies.
Since you have shottyman you also have Rel2, so just blast your enemy with rockets when it's away.Or with BFG.

P.S.Way longer than i intended to write.

ultimate26:
You need EE to take Intuition if you are not a scout, so are you saying that scout is the only way to use a proper shotty build?

IronBeer:

--- Quote from: AlterAsc on March 08, 2012, 13:11 ---...with MFa you can just ignore lots of normally problematic enemies.

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Well, not under the current version...

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