DRL > Nightmare!
[N!] Any suggestions?
DaEezT:
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DoomRL (v.0.9.8.5 Beta 2) roguelike post-mortem character dump
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DaEezT, level 8 Cacodemon Captain, killed by a cacodemon
on level 7 of the Phobos base.
He survived 39725 turns and scored 99836 points.
He opposed the Nightmare!
He killed 461 out of 591 hellspawn. (78%)
-- Statistics ------------------------------------------------
Health 0/70 Experience 22808/8
ToHit +0 ToDmg Ranged +0 ToDmg Melee +3
-- Traits ----------------------------------------------------
Ironman (Level 2)
Hellrunner (Level 2)
Tough as nails (Level 3)
Brute (Level 1)
-- Equipment -------------------------------------------------
[a] [ Armor ] green armor [0/1] (46%)
[b] [ Weapon ] chaingun (1d6)x5 [50/50]
[c] [ Boots ] steel boots [2/2] (99%)
[d] [ Prepared ] chaingun (1d6)x5 [50/50]
-- Inventory -------------------------------------------------
[a] blue armor [2/2] (74%)
[b] blue armor [2/2] (100%)
[c] chaingun (1d6)x5 [50/50]
[d] 10mm ammo (x60)
[e] 10mm ammo (x100)
[f] 10mm ammo (x100)
[g] 10mm ammo (x100)
[h] 10mm ammo (x100)
[i] 10mm ammo (x100)
[j] 10mm ammo (x100)
[k] 10mm ammo (x100)
[l] 10mm ammo (x100)
[m] 10mm ammo (x100)
[n] 10mm ammo (x100)
-- Kills -----------------------------------------------------
54 former humans
112 former sergeants
112 former captains
36 imps
86 demons
13 lost souls
8 cacodemons
1 baron of hell
18 hell knights
1 arachnotron
3 former commandos
-- History ---------------------------------------------------
He started his journey on the suface of Phobos.
On level 2 he battled through the complex.
On level 3 he battled through a maze of rooms.
On level 4 he battled through the complex.
On level 5 he battled through the complex.
On level 6 he battled through the complex.
On level 7 he battled through the complex.
There he finally was killed by a cacodemon.
-- Messages --------------------------------------------------
demon. The demon dies. The missile hits the demon. The missile hits
the demon. Boom!
Fire -- Choose target... The missile hits the demon. The missile hits the
demon. Boom! The missile hits the demon. The missile hits the demon.
The demon hits you.
Your weapon is empty.
Your weapon is empty.
You reload the chaingun with 10mm ammo. The demon hits you. The demon hits
you. The demon hits you.
Fire -- Choose target... The missile hits the demon. The missile hits the
demon. The missile hits the demon. The missile hits the demon. The
missile hits the demon. The demon dies.
You reload the chaingun with 10mm ammo. You are hit!
You open the door. You are hit! Your green armor is damaged! You
die!...
-- General ---------------------------------------------------
Before him 189 brave souls have ventured into Phobos:
176 of those were killed.
3 of those were killed by something unknown.
1 didn't read the thermonuclear bomb manual.
And 3 couldn't handle the stress and commited a stupid suicide.
Some rumours though, say that the Cyberdemon was killed already!
Is he immortal? 6 souls claim to have killed him...
6 killed the bastard and survived.
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I was doing so well....
--- Quote --- You open the door. You are hit! Your green armor is damaged! You
die!...
--- End quote ---
opened a door and before the game even had a chance to draw what was behind that door I saw 3 explosions (1 from cacodemon and 2 from barrels) and was dead on the spot...
Blade:
That's why it is good to have Intuition: to always know, what is behind next door.
Malek Deneith:
One thing that a man learns from ADOM - always stand a little to the side before opening a door xP
DaEezT:
Here are a few ideas/theories from me:
1. You'll only be able to level up until you reach dlvl 10 at which point AVs are likely to show up. Killing things after that will be almost impossible because of the huge number of though monsters. Even using rocket launcher and BFG won't help. Both have a low per slot ammo count and both destroy items on the ground around the monster. In addition all the late game monsters have splash as well so collectiong ammo won't be an option and they don't drop any items either.
2. You can level up as long as your patience lasts on dlvl 2! On dlvl 2 the only monsters are humans, sergeants, captains, imps, demons and souls. All except the demons die from one chaingun attack (5 hits) and humans and captains drop ammo so you can just keep on spawncamping till you reach a high enough level.
3. The only realistic victory option is the Spear because it's overpowered :p
4. If N! works like all the other difficulties then Cybie and AoD shouldn't be any tougher so the main problem is suriving the normal levels.
5. Angel of Haste might actually be the ideal way to beat N! (or AoH the ideal way to beat N! :p). Normally you need to find 23 exits to reach cybie (level1 is easy so it doesn't count). AoH halves that but you can still spawncamp on dlvl 3 and the toughest enemies there are a few cacodemons (really only a few).
Observations:
- Enemies don't respawn if you or another monster stand on their corpse.
- Corpses are 'swallowed' by water (see my earlier post)
Hints:
Humans (all kinds) and knights/barons are easy to control because they like guarding levers/items and the later is easily 'created' by killing a few humsn a dozen times or so.
My personal target build for N! is:
Ironman (3)
Tough as nails(3)
Hellrunner(3)
Brute(2)
Berserker(1)
Total level: 12
The idea is to kill the AoD and then just finish off Cybie with 2 hits.
I'll also give AoH on N! a try now.
Blade:
--- Quote from: DaEezT on December 17, 2006, 08:28 ---5. Angel of Haste might actually be the ideal way to beat N! (or AoH the ideal way to beat N! :p). Normally you need to find 23 exits to reach cybie (level1 is easy so it doesn't count). AoH halves that but you can still spawncamp on dlvl 3 and the toughest enemies there are a few cacodemons (really only a few).
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Hmm, read once more my first post in this topic. There i said that AoH's first level is dlvl 2. On dlvl 2 there are only humans, imps, demons and lost souls. And if you take a look at my first mortem once more, you will see that 10th level is possible to reach there.
Some hints that i can make after dozens of deaths while leveling on dlvl 2:
Once you spawned, first you objective is to find chaingunner and kill him 3 or more times to get enough ammo. At this time try to avoid demons as long as possible, they die only after 5-7 hits of your pistol. Collect every medikit you see. Leave health globes for worse times(when you will have approx 20% hp). I have noticed that usefull items very often are placed near barrels, so don't be lazy, move barrels out of globes. I haven't found shotgun usefull here, because to not loose health you must snipe enemies, and with shotgun it is not possible. When you got chaingun, the easiest exp is demons. They don't fire and they grants maximum exp among monsters on dlvl 2(exceps lost souls, but lost souls disappears after death, so no spawncamping can be used on them). And they can kill you only if you make a really stupid thing, or it they are more than 2.
--- Quote from: DaEezT on December 17, 2006, 08:28 ---Observations:
- Enemies don't respawn if you or another monster stand on their corpse.
- Corpses are 'swallowed' by water (see my earlier post)
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Two more things to add:
- Monster's bodies are not disappearing if a barrel placed on them. They only swap to each other.
- Monster's bodies disappeares if on already existing corpse dies another monster. And then ressurects only last died monster.
--- Quote from: DaEezT on December 17, 2006, 08:28 ---My personal target build for N! is:
Ironman (3)
Tough as nails(3)
Hellrunner(3)
Brute(2)
Berserker(1)
Total level: 12
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I'd like to add that imho if you are playing with chaingun and plasmagun, then you must use Eagle Eye level 2, because it allows you to remain coward all the time, and this can save your life.
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