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[Matt_S]

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 DoomRL (v.0.9.9.6) roguelike post-mortem character dump
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 Matt, level 8 Demon Sergeant Scout,
 was spooked by a lost soul on level 5 of the Deimos base.
 He survived 85701 turns and scored 37165 points.
 He played for 1 hour, 17 minutes and 27 seconds.
 He didn't like it too rough.

 He killed 356 out of 392 hellspawn. (90%)
 He held his right to remain violent.
 He was an Angel of Marksmanship!

-- Special levels --------------------------------------------

  Levels generated : 11
  Levels visited   : 5
  Levels completed : 4

-- Awards ----------------------------------------------------

  Hell Champion Medal
  Hell Armorer Badge

-- Graveyard -------------------------------------------------

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-- Statistics ------------------------------------------------

  Health 0/50   Experience 22206/8
  ToHit Ranged +0  ToHit Melee +0  ToDmg Ranged +0  ToDmg Melee +0

-- Traits ----------------------------------------------------

  Class : Scout

    Hellrunner       (Level 2)
    Son of a gun     (Level 3)
    Dualgunner       (Level 1)
    Dodgemaster      (Level 1)
    Gun Kata         (Level 1)

  SoG->SoG->DG->HR->HR->DM->MGK->SoG->

-- Equipment -------------------------------------------------

    [a] [ Armor      ]   nothing
    [b] [ Weapon     ]   combat pistol (3d4) [14/15] (P1)
    [c] [ Boots      ]   tactical boots [0/0] (100%)
    [d] [ Prepared   ]   speedloader pistol (2d4) [5/6]

-- Inventory -------------------------------------------------

    [a] speedloader pistol (2d4) [6/6]
    [b] red armor [4/4] (91%)
    [c] nanofiber red armor [2]
    [d] medical armor [2/2] (200%) (B)
    [e] Lava Armor [4/4] (100%)
    [f] 10mm ammo (x25)
    [g] 10mm ammo (x100)
    [h] 10mm ammo (x100)
    [i] large med-pack
    [j] phase device
    [k] power mod pack
    [l] Arena Master's Staff
    [m] 10mm ammo chain (x250)
    [n] 10mm ammo chain (x250)
    [o] 10mm ammo chain (x250)

-- Resistances -----------------------------------------------

    None

-- Kills -----------------------------------------------------

    75 former humans
    44 former sergeants
    14 former captains
    50 imps
    28 demons
    98 lost souls
    27 cacodemons
    8 hell knights
    1 baron of hell
    2 arachnotrons
    1 former commando
    4 pain elementals
    2 bruiser brothers
    1 shambler
    1 Arena Master

-- History ---------------------------------------------------

  He started his journey on the surface of Phobos.
  On level 2 he entered Hell's Arena.
  He left the Arena as a champion!
  On level 5 he stormed the Chained Court.
  On level 5 he assembled a speedloader pistol!
  On level 5 he found the Arena Master's Staff!
  He defeated the Hell Arena Master!
  On level 6 he assembled a speedloader pistol!
  On level 8 he encountered the Phobos Anomaly.
  On level 9 he assembled a tactical boots!
  On level 9 he assembled a nanofiber armor!
  On level 10 he entered Hell's Armory.
  On level 10 he assembled a tactical armor!
  He destroyed the evil within and reaped the rewards!
  On level 12 he found the Lava Armor!
  On level 12 he ventured into the Halls of Carnage.
  On level 13 he found the Butcher's Cleaver!
  On level 13 he found the City of Skulls.
  On level 13 he finally was spooked by a lost soul.

-- Messages --------------------------------------------------

 The missile hits the lost soul. The lost soul dies. You dualreload your guns!
 The lost soul hits you. The lost soul hits you. The lost soul hits you.
 You use a large med-pack. You feel fully healed. The lost soul hits you. The
 lost soul hits you. The lost soul hits you. The lost soul hits you. The lost
 soul hits you. The lost soul hits you.
 You use a Arena Master's Staff. You raise your arms! The lost soul dies. The
 lost soul hits you. The lost soul hits you. The lost soul hits you. The lost
 soul hits you. The lost soul hits you. The lost soul hits you.
 You see : a lost soul (wounded) | pool of blood | [ m ]ore
 The missile hits the lost soul. The missile hits the lost soul. The lost soul
 dies. You dualreload your guns! The lost soul hits you. The lost soul hits
 you.
 You see : a lost soul (wounded) | pool of blood | [ m ]ore
 The missile hits the lost soul. The lost soul hits you. The lost soul hits
 you. You die!... Press <Enter>...
 The missile hits the pain elemental. The pain elemental spawns lost souls!

-- General ---------------------------------------------------

 12 brave souls have ventured into Phobos:
 11 of those were killed.

 1 souls destroyed the Mastermind...
 1 showed that it can outsmart hell itself.

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Well, I entered City of Skulls.  That, uhh, that's probably all that needs to be said to explain what happened.  The game was being so nice up until the prior level, then it started spawning pain elementals (and their lost souls destroyed my tactical set).  Anyway, in a desperation move, I took off my armor, hoping I would be able to outrun the lost souls.  Nope.  So just to tell myself what I already knew before entering: gravity boot sharpshooter can take on the City of Skulls, normal Gun Kata dude cannot.  On the note of Gun Kata, I need to dodge more.

And just to taunt me, the game spawned the butcher's cleaver on the same level as the City of Skulls. I knew I should have done AoB.

[skarczew]

The game usually spawns Butcher's Cleaver on AoMr for me as well.

Regarding Lost Souls: avoid at all costs on AoMr. You have no chance - they are overpowered now.

[Deathwind]

you would need an energy pistol or a blaster to clear the city in this version...

[skarczew]

you would need an energy pistol or a blaster to clear the city in this version...

And homing phase. Even with non-bullet weapon he will get encircled anyway.

[Creepy]

How the hell did Lost Souls get so hardcore all of a sudden?

[skarczew]

How the hell did Lost Souls get so hardcore all of a sudden?

No idea when (I did not have contact with DoomRL for one year), but someone (Devs? Who was it =( ?) added new AI (good thing) and high resistance to bullets (bad thing, imo).

In AoMr early game if you meet Pain Elemental in open space it just hurts =( .

[Matt_S]

Unless something's changed with lost souls/pain elementals since 0.9.9.5, a sharpshooter with gravity boots can take on City of Skulls without anything but a modded pistol (and plenty of ammo).

[ih8regin]

yep, a sharpshooter, since sharpshooter delivers enough damage to knockback souls, while MGK/MBD builds don't have the punch for this. And, gravity boots you say? Sure enough, boosting self to 0.4s while walking is already enough to outrun souls. No gravity boots, and you're dead.

IIRC resistances were added in 0.9.9.5.

[Pricklyman]

MBD builds do actually also work against lost souls/pain elementals in general, however not so well in City of Skulls.

Why do I say this? Because with 6 bullets rattling off at once (or more) you can easily burst one burst in, and hit the next soul with some of the other burst. And so on and so forth until dead. (Also, since pain elementals don't have the bullet resistance of the souls...FOCUS FIRE - FRONT!)

[Uitë]

I think that the new AI has made the lost souls so much more of a threat that it only seems fair to nerf them a bit to bring them a bit more in line with the low level annoyance they used to be. Obviously, single souls are still trivial to deal with, so the change has to be something that has a bigger effect when they're in groups. Lowering their speed, maybe?

[Klear]

Their speed is their defining factor. I'm not sure lowering their bullet resistance is the way to go either, since City of Skulls is likely a tough challenge on AoMr even if you can one-shot them.

I had an idea, which would probably require another complex rewrite of their AI:

Hmm.. now that I think of it, I'll post it in the request for features section.