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[Silhar]

Yes, there is just one way out from the shrine, this way being the door behind you. You've spent some time on the ship already so your characters know how to get to the spaceport. Just declare you'd like to go there and it will be cool.

On XPs - don't worry, you'll catch up with him eventually. I'm not favorizing anyone.

[LuckyDee]

Good, you already had me wondering how we were going to find 'A3' when none of us are able to read :)

[LuckyDee]

On XPs - don't worry, you'll catch up with him eventually. I'm not favorizing anyone.

I was talking to Klear, of course ;)

[LuckyDee]

I assume we're off to dock A3 now...

Amen.

[LuckyDee]

I've started drawing up a plan of spendin my xp, based on the socially impaired scout/marskman type (scout fits the bill better than sniper does), so in this regard:

* We started out with 400 xp, which I've spent. Does this mean that after the next advance I take (since 100xp is the minimum to spend) I'll rise to the second rank in my career path, and as such can choose the advance after that from both the Dreg and Outcast categories? Although to me this makes sense, I contradicts the fact that Sound Constitution is listed both in the Dreg as in the Rogue advances, at 100 and 200 xp respectively...

* Although this is still very far away: Under the Rogue advances, Sharpshooter is listed, for which Deadeye Shot is required. However, Deadeye Shot is not included in any advance scheme... Is this a flaw in the rulebook, or am I missing something?

I'll just make a list of advance that are worth consideration in the light of the concept I have; in that case, once I get to spend some xp, I can simply pick the one from the list that has been most prevalent up until that point.

Oh and Klear/HD: in regard to spending money, take heed of the Craftsmanship modifiers listed on pp127+128 of the Dark Heresy book. Better weapons cost more (x3 or x10), are easier to handle (+5 or +10 to BS) and harder to get (GM's discretion I guess). On the other hand, poor quality costs less (x0.5) and shoots worth shit (-10[!] to BS). You get one with every Happy Meal, though.

Silhar, I assume the weapons we have so far are of 'common' Craftsmanship...

[HexaDoken]

UHHHHHHHHHHH

Dear LuckyDee, you said that I returned the last throne to Van Bohr, but actually I didn't. I just decided to gift it to the random stranger I see for lulz, but I didn't yet. Just to point out a logical flaw in your post.

To buy a weapon, you must roll for it's availability. It is an Inquiry test(basic Investigation skill, fellowship(oops I have 19 fel and no skill)), and it gains bonuses or penalties from 3 factors.
1) Item's availability. Each item has it's own availability - higher it is, more bonus you get, lower it is, more penalty you get.
2) Population of community in which you search for the item. Searching in a 10,000+ people city will give us a nice bonus of +20, while searching in a community of less than 100 people will give us a -10 penalty.
3) Item's craftmanship. Poor is +10, Common is 0, Good is -10 and Best is -20.

But of course GM can change all that. Honestly, with my 19 fellowship and no inquiry skill, my chance of finding a common item of poor quality will be 50% at best.
THATS A BIT TOO SMALL, DONT YA THINK?

[LuckyDee]

Dear LuckyDee, you said that I returned the last throne to Van Bohr, but actually I didn't. I just decided to gift it to the random stranger I see for lulz, but I didn't yet. Just to point out a logical flaw in your post.

Oh, I misunderstood then... I'll edit the post.

Honestly, with my 19 fellowship and no inquiry skill, my chance of finding a common item of poor quality will be 50% at best. THATS A BIT TOO SMALL, DONT YA THINK?

Yes I do. That's why we have 'Motormouth' MkLear with us. :)
The fact that you are the one who wants to buy an item, doesn't mean that you have to be the one to do the actual purchase.

In fact, I was aiming for the IC thread to take a turn towards us getting to know each other on a professional level; it should soon become obvious that both MkLear and Lazerus are from Hive worlds themselves, and thus know their way around. This gives you ample opportunity to turn this knowledge to your advantage, for example where shopping is concerned.

[HexaDoken]

* HexaDoken calculates

60%. Not much actually.

I'm still thinkin of my role in the team. Most probably I'll just be the main source of brute force. But I'm still thinkin :P

[LuckyDee]

You're miscalculating by the way: the table only runs up to 'Easy', for a +30 modifier. There's also 'Very Easy' (+40?) and 'Automatic' (sic). So with availability Plentiful and population <100,000, a poor quality item is still automatically available, generally speaking.

[Klear]

Well, I want to buy a revolver and ammo which is both automatic success (AP rounds are scarce, but I can live without them I guess).

I'm worried about the flak jacket I really really want. It's average, so +20, half of my Fel is 19, so I'll roll against 39, not the greatest odds. I think we should make a list of what everyone needs and then split up and search individually, so that each of us can roll for availability (if that is how it works).

Edit: Hmm... I might even get a compact revolver. It might be useful to be able to easily sneak a wepon wherever relatively easy.

[LuckyDee]

I think we should make a list of what everyone needs and then split up and search individually, so that each of us can roll for availability (if that is how it works).

I understand what you're saying, but that's playing the rules instead of the story. I'm not saying it couldn't be a valid move from the story's perspective as well, you generally just shouldn't think like that.

Since this is about our starting gear and we won't likely have any exotic wishes, I think we'll get some leeway from Silhar anyhow.

[Klear]

Well, it makes sense from both perspectives and it's not a big deal. Additionally, while MkLear and Lazerus may have a greater chance of finding the stuff, it's still up to chance, and it would be hilarious if it was HexaDoken who finds the more rare items.

Edit: First we have to get planetside anyway, and get our instructions from the guards at the dock. Also - maybe we'll need some place to stay, some base of operations? We should leave some money for that, and/or for some unexpected expediences. We'll see when we get there, I guess.

[LuckyDee]

maybe we'll need some place to stay, some base of operations? We should leave some money for that

Hadn't thought of that yet, but doing so, I don't think 1000 thrones is going to cover it. Buying real estate of any kind with that money is out of the question, and somehow I think this isn't like Dungeons and Dragons, where you just hop by the nearest convenient inn (although if anyone sees 'Hotel & Spa' signs along the way, please let me know). Although now I see the book (p152) does provide a list for this.

It also depends on where we land I guess. If we start out in the 'normal' Hive areas (the factory floors, so to speak), we should be able to find some I guess. I don't expect the same kite to fly in the Underhive, though...

It's agreed that we don't have to spend all our money at once, though. Like I said, if we each make lists of what we think is necessary and/or convenient, we'll have something to discuss.

[HexaDoken]

"You're a grunt, right? What sort of outfit were you with?" <- eh, don't really understand the question. What kind of 'job' I did in military? Well, umm, grunts? The guys that run around and shoot people and are mostly used as cannon fodder rather than actual fighting force.

Can you hop on IRC btw? It will be easier to discuss things.

[Silhar]

* We started out with 400 xp, which I've spent. Does this mean that after the next advance I take (since 100xp is the minimum to spend) I'll rise to the second rank in my career path, and as such can choose the advance after that from both the Dreg and Outcast categories? Although to me this makes sense, I contradicts the fact that Sound Constitution is listed both in the Dreg as in the Rogue advances, at 100 and 200 xp respectively...

* Although this is still very far away: Under the Rogue advances, Sharpshooter is listed, for which Deadeye Shot is required. However, Deadeye Shot is not included in any advance scheme... Is this a flaw in the rulebook, or am I missing something?

Silhar, I assume the weapons we have so far are of 'common' Craftsmanship...

1) Yes, that's what it is. When you spend another 100 xp, you'll become Outcast and you will be able to pick skills/traits from both charts.
2) As for the Sharpshooter, there is a mistake, for the trait shouldn't have these requirements at all.

And yes, all the weaponry you have is of common crafting.