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[LuckyDee]

Check out the who's, we've had about 15 guests reading the IC thread the past half an hour. You're getting famous, Sil :)

[Klear]

Whoa.. I'm always filtering the list to show members only, so I missed that. Cool.

If they are enjoying reading the game just half as much as I enjoy playing it... then I enjoy it twice as much as them.

[Esther]

Hi there,


I'm a friend of Lucky and decided to join the group. Silhar was kind enough to allow the character I created into the game. Hope it will be lots of fun!

Esther

[HexaDoken]

Yo.

In case you didn't read the thread, there is an IRC channel dedicated for this rpg. The server is irc.quakenet.org, the channel is #DarkHeresy. I didn't register it yet so if you will join when noone is there you might even get OP status :P

[LuckyDee]

Hi Es, nice to have you around. At least until you start stabbing people ;)

Mercerenary then speaks even more quiet, so only Lazerus who is standing behind him can hear - "However, what I'm currently more interested in is who is that guy who has been following us for quite a while already?"

I decided to roll a dice to see if my hunter instincts are enough to notice our newcomer. An opposed test would be more right, but since I don't have Esther's character sheet, I just rolled a standart Perception test.
20 out of 40 required, ha. You might think HexaDoken didn't notice you, but it doesn't mean it's true.

Let's let Silhar be the judge of that; it might well be that we indeed have no clue, since what Esther first described is player info, not character info.

Although, come to think of it, Lazerus has the Awareness skill, as does HexaDoken (and MkLear as well, probably). I think we thus actually have a pretty good chance of detecting something's wrong, though this is still Silhar's call, not ours.

@Silhar, unless you decide differently of course...

[Esther]

Is that how it works? I also thought Silhar would decide who has the stats to notice me, I do have the advanced skill of Shadowing. Not that it makes much of a difference if you noticed me or not, the outcome will be quite the same.....

Damn Lucky, you know me toooooo well ;)

[HexaDoken]

Well, if I did something wrong, nothing the Edit button can't fix.

Esther, I would like you to just post your character sheet in the OOC thread. Also, Shadowing or not, we ALL here have Awareness, and LuckyDee even has a +10 to it(altho I somewhat par him with my naturally high Perception), so moving around us unnoticed is hard enough.

Our sheets are at pages 3 and 4 of OOC thread, if you care.

[Silhar]

Actually, do we have to roll for every single little thing? I'm a follower of the idea that PCs should roll only in the situations where a failure carries the risk of harming either the character or its plans. Not noticing Esther isn't going to harm you (I hope so, for the time being), so the best thing to do is to roleplay it. If your Perception score is at least superior, awareness bonus included (seen the chart in the chapter 1st?), you will fail to notice the assassin sneaking upon you.

Also, I want to oficially greet you in our little crew, Esther. If you really enjoy backstabbing, I guess we'll be going along just fine... some of us do it for a living, you know. ;)

[LuckyDee]

If your Perception score is at least superior, awareness bonus included ... you will fail to notice the assassin sneaking upon you.

This kind of contradicts itself...

Anyhow, I think that where players are performing actions (be they reflexive or deliberate) that directly oppose each other, such as trying to stay hidden and trying to detect a hidden presence, the only fair (and fun) way is by rolling the dice. This leaves the entire thing to chance and keeps the players on their toes.

In short, if the others agree, I'd go with HexaDoken's plan of rolling, but then indeed do it with all the 'official' modifiers (I'd have to look it up). Additionally, depending on how Shadowing works, a contested test might be in order, the player with the highest degree of success being the winner.

[HexaDoken]

If I just make my character do everything I want, he will be absolute badass and will never fail. Sure, this is badass for me, but not really interesting for others. He must fail at least SOMETIMES. But since I can't really decide when he will fail and when he won't(because I do not want him to fail), I use the magic of dice to determine.

I do not HAVE to roll a dice, but that does not mean I can NOT roll a dice. It is up to me. And I'm just informing in case of anything.

Quite like Klear did at some point of time while we were messing around waiting for Van Bohr to come.

[Esther]

Wow, I did not mean to stir up that much discussion. Like I wrote, it seemed easy enough to follow you. Whether or any of you noticed me or not does not really matter. Hexa, it's not that your character failed to notice me. I guess it's save to say that given the little time we all traveled in the maze, you can only now be certain that I am trailing. Others use this mace and I was way behind and not acting in a threatening manner. Maybe I shouldn't have said unnoticed. Not threatening enough to get an instant reaction, could have been better. Sorry, my bad. Now leaning in a bit closer my presence could become an issue.

 
I like playing without rolling dice myself, How do I get to check what you have rolled???? Sylhar has all the data and probably some dice somewhere. I would be quite happy if he rolls for the both of us. ( and cheats to make it fit his story ;)

[HexaDoken]

Hey hey it's not like you did something wrong or anything. You are perfectly fine ^^

Unfortunately, online dice rollers hate me real bad(99 all the way(ALL the way)), so I roll real life dice. So I guess you can't check what I rolled - you will have to believe me(hard, I know, but hell). I rolled 20 for my Awareness test - to stay hidden, you will have to roll out a score that is more than twenty less than your Agility value.

Not that it really matter but you can still do it for fun.

[LuckyDee]

Wow, I did not mean to stir up that much discussion.

No sweat, this happens all the time since we're all still more or less trying to find a way of making things run smoothest. Discussion is good, as far as I'm concerned.

How do I get to check what you have rolled?

Silhar posted the link to a site for this (Invisiblecastle.com I think, it's somewhere in this thread) where you can roll and check results. It's still pretty easy to cheat, I think, but there has to be trust between players as well. Personally (as you probably know well enough) I don't really care whether I fail or succeed at anything as long as I can turn the situation to something interesting.

But then - if we have situations Silhar doesn't care about getting involved in - we can leave it up to the players involved how to handle it. Playing it is good, rolling can be fun as well.

[Esther]

Still working on my character sheet but will post it tonight if I can. I also thought it would be kind of cool to introduce myself without giving you player info up front and roleplay the thing first. Makes it impossible for you to anticipate stuff and feels much more real. If not tonight it will be there tomorrow.
 

[Klear]

Yeah, I'm in favour of not posting character sheets here anymore. It makes it too tempting to have a look at them.

BTW, welcome Esther! The more the merrier. Also, great.. just as our PCs finally reached some sort of shaky equilibrium, a new face shows up to upset it =)

Edit: Also Re: rolling dice on stuff like this - I wouldn't roll anything and just ask Silhar if I notice anybody. If dice rolling is necessary, he can do it himself, and with any modifiers that might apply to the situation.