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Re: Is this *EVER* going to be released?
« Reply #15 on: July 09, 2012, 13:36 »

What? C? Low-level? Damn I'm old.
I usually reserve that descriptor for FORTRAN or COBOL or Rogue :P

Oops, didn't mean to totally derail the topic..*cough* DiabloRL!
In case you didn't know, "low-level" refers to it's closeness to machine language. C is lower-level than both FORTRAN and COBOL. The whole purpose behind C was to create a language that was very close to the x86 instruction set. Both of the aforementioned have to be interpreted before they can be compiled into machine language, C, when targeting an x86 system, is compiled directly. That's why C is still around even after all these years, it still runs crazy fast because there's no ambiguity involved in compiling it.
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Re: Is this *EVER* going to be released?
« Reply #16 on: July 09, 2012, 13:44 »

Most reasonable languages (see Pascal or Ruby) use keywords. I don't know what idiot came up with the curly braces idea ;).
HAML/SASS/Coffee-script taught me that the best way is just indentation. Why not...

Code: [Select]
define output(string)
    print string
for x in some_array
    output x

Explicit delimiters are just tiring.
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Re: Is this *EVER* going to be released?
« Reply #17 on: July 09, 2012, 14:10 »

@up:
We shall not forget the clarity offered by Python ...

Btw. I like the offtop in this topic =) .
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Re: Is this *EVER* going to be released?
« Reply #18 on: July 10, 2012, 06:00 »

Heh... I never really got past QBasic... those were the days.
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Re: Is this *EVER* going to be released?
« Reply #19 on: July 10, 2012, 12:12 »

Like in any reasonable language (see Free Pascal). If you have 5 apples, the last apple is the 5th or the 4th? Think about it.
If you have a Taylor expansion with 5 terms (counting terms that might be zero), the order of the last term is 5th or 4th? ;)
This I am explicitly working on fixing, as a part of my PhD.
Neat!  I'm looking forward to it.
A number is a number. 3.3 has no less rights to live than 3. And that makes a TON of things simpler in the language -- it's greatest strength.
Sure, but I don't see many (video game) RPGs where stats are anything but integers.  Heck, even DoomRL is based around integers.  1d6 doesn't return any number between 1 and 6, just the integers.  Even the fine time scale of energy units is integer based, is it not?
Err, no? See premake.
Maybe I'm misunderstanding something or maybe I didn't communicate very well, but I meant turning a Lua project to an executable, like a counterpart to py2exe.  I have found 3rd party stuff (some of which I have to compile myself, rustling my jimmies even more; if I wanted to use a C compiler I'd program in C again) that will work with a single lua file, but then I'd have to compile all of my lua files together first which seems like something that the program ought to do itself.  I realize I'm being kind of difficult here because I probably could have written a Lua program to automate all of that in the time it took me to write this rant.

We shall not forget the clarity offered by Python ...
Sometimes when I feel like doing something simple really quick I'll write up a small Python program.  Then I'll realize it doesn't work because I used curly braces.  Old habits die hard.
Btw. I like the offtop in this topic =) .
I was actually worried about what might happen when I mentioned arrays starting at 1.  >_>
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Re: Is this *EVER* going to be released?
« Reply #20 on: July 10, 2012, 13:00 »

Sometimes when I feel like doing something simple really quick I'll write up a small Python program.  Then I'll realize it doesn't work because I used curly braces.  Old habits die hard.
Progress can't be stopped. Human ability to adapt to an environment is that what makes us pretty unique ;) . Adjust old habits :) .
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Re: Is this *EVER* going to be released?
« Reply #21 on: August 13, 2012, 12:20 »

Although I don't understand coding at all (attempting to read Structure and Interpretation of Computer Programs on MIT and failing more than once has turned me into a gibbering imp left with no recourse but to hurt myself) or any math more complicated than Dungeons and Dragons, I would still like to help (or prod others into helping).

Despite being it open source, is there still some central hub that has like a list of what needs to be done, bug reports, typos, testing, etc? Even if it's only programming that needs to be done, if there's no home base then how can people throw money at it?

Maybe I will prepare my body and mind and attempt to read SICP again.
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Re: Is this *EVER* going to be released?
« Reply #22 on: August 13, 2012, 12:31 »

Compiling the current version and testing it would help a lot!
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Re: Is this *EVER* going to be released?
« Reply #23 on: August 13, 2012, 12:39 »

Thy will be done.

I'll give it a shot as soon as I get home from work.
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Re: Is this *EVER* going to be released?
« Reply #24 on: August 13, 2012, 13:14 »

Although I don't understand coding at all (attempting to read Structure and Interpretation of Computer Programs on MIT and failing more than once has turned me into a gibbering imp left with no recourse but to hurt myself) or any math more complicated than Dungeons and Dragons, I would still like to help (or prod others into helping).
Try How To Design Programs. Has a nicer learning curve. SICP is designed as a follow-on course to HtDP.

www.htdp.org
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Re: Is this *EVER* going to be released?
« Reply #25 on: August 13, 2012, 13:31 »

Thanks! I'll give this an earnest go. Time to be less productive at work and more productive about roguelikes khe he he...
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Re: Is this *EVER* going to be released?
« Reply #26 on: August 31, 2012, 22:37 »

I'm probably going to check these forums once every few weeks for the next few years to see if it's been released yet.
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Re: Is this *EVER* going to be released?
« Reply #27 on: September 01, 2012, 12:29 »

DiabloRL 0.4.6 is in Beta testing (you can donate and get immedate access), so it's sooner than later :)
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Re: Is this *EVER* going to be released?
« Reply #28 on: September 04, 2012, 01:15 »

DiabloRL 0.4.6 is in Beta testing (you can donate and get immedate access), so it's sooner than later :)

I did not know this.
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