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Matt_S:
I saw this movie with my brother today.  It lived up to the hype in my opinion.  I definitely recommend it.

For others who saw the movie, what did you think?  Please hide spoilers, and if you haven't seen the movie then beware.

Spoiler: Click at your own peril (click to show/hide)While I never read the comics, I watched some of the cartoons, so I really should have seen the Talia twist coming even if I didn't know which person it would be.  Especially with the scenes of Ra's al Ghul's child and the mysterious person defending them as they escaped.

Something that's been bugging me though...  Obviously Heath Ledger's death made it nearly impossible for the Joker to reappear, but in terms of the story, where the heck was he the entire time?  Did the baddies kindly leave all the people in Arkham Asylum locked up?

LuckyDee:
Thanks for the heads up - I'm probably going to see it next Friday, since my girl and me also went to see the previous episode (which was one of the very very few times I actually went out for a movie). No spoilers for me in the meantime...

I'll let you know if and when.

Tavana:
I enjoyed watching the movie, but left the theatre feeling dissatisfied. Obviously the movie was long. Fair enough. But the last twenty to forty minutes did not hold my interest in the way the first two hours+ did.

Spoiler: If you plan on seeing the movie and enjoy it, don't read this (click to show/hide)Basically after the plot twist I found the movie to be predictable. All the major players were near each other, playing out their objectives. There were no twists. Nothing to keep me guessing. I was hoping there was something else to keep me interested.

From the moment I heard that there was no autopilot, I went "Oh man. Please let that be the way they end this. That would take huge balls as a director to actually finish this out that way." I knew in my heart that the director wouldn't and couldn't, and I held onto that thought and slight sadness through to the end credits.

Matt_S:
Spoiler:  You know the drill (click to show/hide)I understand where you're coming from.  But there was the last minute twist where the reactor got flooded which I didn't see coming at all.  Sure, after that, I knew exactly what Batman was going to do, but before that everything seemed okay.
I do have a bit of dissatisfaction though.
Spoiler (click to show/hide)I mean, Bruce Wayne badly wants to save Gotham this one time, then he "kills" Batman so he doesn't have to deal with the city anymore.  If he's done with being Batman, that's fine and I understand, but why pretend Batman dies?  After the conversation with Blake where Bruce says anyone can be Batman, the logical thing to do is just have Blake take over.  But now, what, Blake will just be a solo Robin?
To be honest, I wasn't happy with the ending of The Dark Knight either, for more than one reason.
Spoiler: The Dark Knight spoilers just in case (click to show/hide)1. The whole taking the fall for Harvey thing was silly.  The "hero Gotham needs" and "hero Gotham deserves" stuff was good poetry but bad logic.  But I guess Bruce was tired of the whole hero thing.
2. Batman doesn't kill anyone.  He'll let Ra's al Ghul die, sure, but he doesn't kill.  Except when he kills Harvey.  And this happens right after his conversation with the Joker...
3. Batman, or any police officer, never bothers to explain to Harvey that Batman thought he was going to save Rachel.  Maybe it's too late at this point to keep him from being insane, but nobody ever considers sharing that piece of information.
4. In retrospect, the faked death of Gordon was kind of silly as well.

Klear:
Saw it yesterday and must say that I'm kinda disappointed. Don't take it that I don't enjoy intelligent movies (which this is, to some degree), but where was the action? I mean,...

Spoiler (click to show/hide)First part of the movie we have Bruce Wayne locked up in his room after giving up being Batman, then, after a single chase with the bad guys he promptly gets his ass kicked and spends the second part of the movie locked up in jail. And the finale? He finally gets to kick some ass, but somehow (to me) comes off less capable than the plethora of supporting good guys, especially Commissioner Gordon.

Most of the action where batman is involved consists of him flying in the Batcopter, which was nice, but not so exciting as it could be IMO. Most of the movie then consists of us watching the bad guys executing their plans without anybody standing in their way. Tom Hardy was awesome, while not a better villain than ledger's Joker, he felt much more dangerous. You can't go wrong with Batman slugging it out with Bronson, right?

Anyway, I'm gonna go see the movie again, simply because I promised a friend to go with her, but then I got to see the premiere for free, so hopefully it will be better the second time, but strangely, right now I don't remember a single memorable scene to look forward to seeing again (though I'm sure there are some).

Also, it's such a shame Heath Ledger died, since the scenes with Dr. Crane (Scarecrow from the first two movies) would have definitely been built around the Joker.

BTW, I believe this thread doesn't offer anything for people who don't want to read the spoilers... maybe we should edit the title with *unmarked spoilers inside* and talk openly? Maybe in a couple of days/weeks.

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