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The Dark Knight Rises

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Tormuse:
I saw the movie a couple days ago and I think this video review sums up my opinions pretty well.

It was okay, but it did not live up to the hype.  It had serious pacing issues, (it did not need to be almost three hours long) and while it did a good job of upping the stakes, I felt kind of disappointed in the end.  (It definitely wasn't as good as Dark Knight)

I do rather like that it has strong, intelligent female characters and that Catwoman and Miranda have strong philosophical motives for their actions and aren't just there to look pretty.  (though, they're good at looking pretty too)  :)

Also, this may be a reflection of my twisted sense of humour, but the ending reminded me strongly of this scene from another Batman movie.

Spoiler (click to show/hide)Some days, you just can't get rid of a bomb.  :D

Klear:

--- Quote from: Tormuse on August 02, 2012, 13:37 ---Also, this may be a reflection of my twisted sense of humour, but the ending reminded me strongly of this scene from another Batman movie.
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You're not the only one. It crossed my mind that it was a homage.

I also find it funny that both this movie and The Avengers Spoiler (click to show/hide)end with a billionaire in high-tech flying machine on a suicide mission to get a nuclear bomb away from a city. Funny coincidence.

LuckyDee:
Finally saw it, so I thought I'd see what you've had to say so far.

Spoiler (click to show/hide)I agree with Tavana about the ending; actually, I think it should have ended with Wayne's death for multiple reasons, the most important one being the feel of the movies. I couldn't watch more than 5 minutes of any given X-Men movie, and haven't even bothered with Spiderman/Thor/Daredevil/Iron Man/you name it. Same goes for the previous Batman incarnations.
I hadn't given Batman begins any attention, but then I was sparked (by scenes of Ledger, I think) and went to see The Dark Knight - and was pleasantly horrified by the no-nonsense terroristic approach to threat and violence. The death of Wayne - or even the absence of hope of his survival - would have been the cherry on top.

I had not expected Bane to be more impressive than Ledger's Joker, but he was a worthy follow-up nonetheless. What bother me, though, is that his plan to destroy Gotham clearly involved getting himself and his loved one killed in the process as well - it's not like they were in a hurry to get out of the blast radius with a mere 11 minutes to spare. For a character more or less defined by the word 'survival', this seems like a very stupid thing to do. Or more like a bet-ya-hadn't-thought-of-that-had-ya-Nolan? thing to do. Especially when Talia - who lives to see Wayne die - agrees to this plan even while Wayne himself is somewhere else entirely, alive and unguarded (nice homage as well).

And as to the secret identity: I understand why Alfred, Lucius, Bane and Talia know who Batman really is. I also understand Gordon's revelation at the end of the movie, although it seems a bit far-fetched. How the hell did Blake know?! He starts explaining this halfway through the movie, and ends up not doing so at all.

All in all: I'm still watching Batman Begins, to have the complete story, and I'll probably see The Dark Knight a second time, since it was very impressive. Should Robin Begins / The Boy Wonder Rises show in a couple of years, I'll definitely not be bothered. I fear this series is going to be Saw all over again: 1 brilliant movie, 2 mandatory sequels, N pieces of rehashed crap. Pity.

Klear:
I recommend watching Batman Begins and Dark Knight in quick succession. Their pacing work pretty well as a single long movie.

Spoiler (click to show/hide)The thing I'd hate about batman dying in the end - it would make him look totally incompetent, never doing anything right in the movie. I mean, first he draws the attention from Bane allowing his to escape, then he gets his back broken is a fair fight, he doesn't see the betrayal coming and isn't even the one to finally defeat Bane. If he died in the end, I'd feel like the only good thing he managed to do through the movie was getting himself killed.
Oh, btw, IMO Iron Man (the first one) is an extremely entertaining action flick, nowhere near to dullness of most of the rest of the comic book movies.

Reef Blastbody:

--- Quote from: Klear on August 12, 2012, 06:18 ---...nowhere near to dullness of most of the rest of the comic book movies.

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Iron Man is a high contender, but Sin City would probably have to take the "Best comic book movie of all time" award for me. A History of Violence, and Hellboy/Hellboy 2 are also fairly up there in the ranks.

When I watched Dark Knight, something bothered me, and I wasn't sure, so I went back and rewatched it painstakingly. I realized that Spoiler (click to show/hide)Batman, while fighting, does not throw a single kick through the entire movie. I don't know why that bothers me, but it does. I know kicks are impractical in a lot of situations because you can get thrown off balance and a lot more can go wrong than a punch, but without like a sweeping roundhouse with the cape moving or a dropkick off a zipline, it doesn't feel like Batman to me. For anyone who wants to know, Dark Knight Rises does have a few kicks, I think about 4-5 (although this number does include a few kicks to people already on the ground! For shame, Batman!)

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