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[Peter5930]

I got as far as the mastermind, but the only nuke I'd seen (except for the one I started with and used on the cyberdemon) was obliterated a few levels earlier by a group of barons and a bunch of mancubi and revenants took out an invulnerability globe on the level immediately before Dis.

This is the second time that I've made it to the mastermind on N! AoPc (the first time was about 4 hours ago), but I didn't know about the melee weapon crash-on-death issue when I did it the first time, so I don't have a mortem for that one.  It took me about 50 attempts for each time I reached the mastermind, with the great majority of the deaths being on the first couple of levels.

I found that I could get an extra level of experience by getting monsters to kill each other in crossfire or with barrels on the first two levels; after that, monster deaths stop contributing to experience.  It meant that I was often level 3 once I reached Hell's Arena.

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 DoomRL (v.0.9.9.6G) roguelike post-mortem character dump
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 John Romero, level 10 Mancubus Warrant Officer Marine,
 let the Spider Mastermind pwn him on level 8 of Hell.
 He survived 10878 turns and scored 157418 points.
 He played for 26 minutes and 45 seconds.
 He opposed the Nightmare!

 He killed 118 out of 892 hellspawn. (13%)
 Who gave him the ticket to hell, anyway?
 He was an Angel of Pacifism!

-- Special levels --------------------------------------------

  Levels generated : 11
  Levels visited   : 5
  Levels completed : 0

-- Awards ----------------------------------------------------

  None

-- Graveyard -------------------------------------------------

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-- Statistics ------------------------------------------------

  Health 0/90   Experience 12546/10
  ToHit Ranged +0  ToHit Melee +0  ToDmg Ranged +0  ToDmg Melee +0

-- Traits ----------------------------------------------------

  Class : Marine

    Ironman          (Level 3)
    Hellrunner       (Level 2)
    Tough as nails   (Level 2)
    Dodgemaster      (Level 1)
    Badass           (Level 2)

  HR->HR->DM->TaN->TaN->Bad->Bad->Iro->Iro->Iro->

-- Equipment -------------------------------------------------

    [a] [ Armor      ]   nothing
    [b] [ Weapon     ]   nothing
    [c] [ Boots      ]   nothing
    [d] [ Prepared   ]   nothing

-- Inventory -------------------------------------------------

    [a] green armor [1/1] (25%)
    [b] green armor [1/1] (49%)
    [c] green armor [1/1] (100%)
    [d] blue armor [1/2] (15%)
    [e] red armor [1/6] (9%) (P)
    [f] small med-pack
    [g] small med-pack
    [h] large med-pack
    [i] large med-pack
    [j] large med-pack
    [k] large med-pack
    [l] large med-pack
    [m] homing phase device
    [n] agility mod pack

-- Resistances -----------------------------------------------

    None

-- Kills -----------------------------------------------------

    17 former humans
    12 former sergeants
    4 former captains
    28 imps
    12 demons
    26 lost souls
    3 cacodemons
    1 hell knight
    2 barons of hell
    3 arachnotrons
    2 former commandos
    1 pain elemental
    5 revenants
    1 mancubus
    1 Cyberdemon

-- History ---------------------------------------------------

  On level 2 he entered Hell's Arena.
  He cowardly fled the Arena.
  He left level 4 as soon as possible.
  On level 4 he stormed the Chained Court.
  On level 7 he witnessed the Wall.
  Not knowing what to do, he left.
  On level 8 he encountered the Phobos Anomaly.
  He left level 11 as soon as possible.
  He sounded the alarm on level 12!
  On level 16 he found the Tower of Babel!
  He nuked level 16!
  On level 18, hell froze over!
  He left level 19 as soon as possible.
  On level 19 he entered the Vaults.
  He came, he saw, but he left.
  On level 20 he was foolish enough to enter the Mortuary!
  He managed to escape from the Mortuary!
  Then at last he found Dis!
  On level 24 he finally let the Spider Mastermind pwn him.

-- Messages --------------------------------------------------

 There is a lever here.
 You wear/wield : a duelist armor [4/4] (65%) (P)
 You use a large med-pack. You feel fully healed.
 You dodge! Boom! You are hit! You dodge! Boom! You dodge! Boom!
 You dodge! Boom! You dodge! Boom! You dodge! Boom! You dodge! Boom!
 You dodge! Boom! You dodge! Boom! You dodge! Boom! You dodge! Boom!
 You dodge! Boom! You are hit! You dodge! Boom! You dodge! Boom!
 Boom! Boom! Boom! Boom!
 There is a lever here.
 You pull the lever... There is a lever here.
 You are hit! You are hit! Your duelist armor is damaged! You are hit! You are
 hit!
 You are hit! Your duelist armor is damaged! You are hit! You are hit! You are
 hit! Your duelist armor is completely destroyed!
 You are hit! You are hit! You die!... Press <Enter>...

-- General ---------------------------------------------------

 223 brave souls have ventured into Phobos:
 209 of those were killed.
 1 of those was killed by something unknown.
 3 didn't read the thermonuclear bomb manual.

 10 souls destroyed the Mastermind...
 6 killed the bitch and survived.
 4 showed that it can outsmart hell itself.

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[Napsterbater]

You start with a nuke... am I missing something?

Edit: oh wait, you used it on Cybie. Is that strictly necessary? Seems like AoPc should start you off with two.

[Q2ZOv]

There is misunderstanding here i think. There are stairs in Tower of Babel on AoPc so no need to use nuke there

[GrAVit]

Indeed, the stairs are located in the south-east corner of the level. Just run past cybie while dodging those rockets, shouldn't be that hard.

[Peter5930]

Thanks; I didn't know about the stairs.

[Klear]

Wow... so you relied on finding an invuln globe before cybie, failing all attempts where you didn't even if you got that far? That must have taken some dedication. I've been struggling with N! AoPc for some time and eventually gave up, only getting to hell a couple of times.

[Peter5930]

Wow... so you relied on finding an invuln globe before cybie, failing all attempts where you didn't even if you got that far? That must have taken some dedication. I've been struggling with N! AoPc for some time and eventually gave up, only getting to hell a couple of times.

Yeah.  I find the first couple of levels the hardest; once I make it to Hell's arena, I've often got dodgemaster and start taking a lot less damage, and I can run circles around demons and only take an occasional hit from lost souls that chase me, and when I get to the chained court and fill up on berk packs, it's fairly smooth sailing until Deimos as long as I don't get stuck in a corridor and meeled to death or take too long finding a staircase.  At Deimos, I start getting invulnerability globes as well as berk packs, and I usually have a phase device or two and sometimes a homing phase to help me out of tough situations.