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I wasn't playing DoomRL for a while then I read Klear's posts about his YAAM N! Ao100 attempts and decided to try to do that myself.

I started with MCe build. Died somewhere near lvl10 and perfectly understood that I just don't have enough patience even for 25 levels of N! YAAM. So I decided to try without YAAM as a goal. For that I chose MVm build and to my great surprise there wes Butcher's Cleaver on the very first level! I grabbed it and thought "Now I'm gonna win!".... and died on level 5 or so. I guess the fact that I didn't play DoomRL for months was the reason for that.

I got really really angry at myself. So I just started over and over until something valuable spawned on level one (in fact that didn't take too long, maybe 15 or 20 tries). And below is mortem of this attempt.

So this attempt is somewhat not legit.

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 DoomRL (v.0.9.9.6) roguelike post-mortem character dump
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 Q2Z0v, level 25 Arch-Vile Blade Marine,
 completed 100 levels of torture on level 100 of Hell.
 He survived 393403 turns and scored 5583537 points.
 He played for 3 hours, 47 minutes and 59 seconds.
 He opposed the Nightmare!

 He killed 3911 out of 4559 hellspawn. (85%)
 He was an Angel of 100!

-- Special levels --------------------------------------------

  Levels generated : 0
  Levels visited   : 0
  Levels completed : 0

-- Awards ----------------------------------------------------

  UAC Star (silver cluster)
  Experience Cross
  Dervis' Medallion
  Centurial Platinum Badge
  Centurial Diamond Badge

-- Graveyard -------------------------------------------------

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-- Statistics ------------------------------------------------

  Health 220/110   Experience 1002854/25
  ToHit Ranged +0  ToHit Melee +10  ToDmg Ranged +0  ToDmg Melee +15

-- Traits ----------------------------------------------------

  Class : Marine

    Ironman          (Level 5)
    Finesse          (Level 3)
    Tough as nails   (Level 3)
    Reloader         (Level 2)
    Brute            (Level 5)
    Juggler          (Level 1)
    Berserker        (Level 1)
    Whizkid          (Level 2)
    Badass           (Level 2)
    Vampyre          (Level 1)

  Bru->Bru->Ber->TaN->Bad->MVm->TaN->Bru->Bad->Iro->Iro->TaN->Iro->Iro->Iro->Fin->Bru->Bru->Jug->Fin->WK->Fin->WK->Rel->Rel->

-- Equipment -------------------------------------------------

    [a] [ Armor      ]   Malek's Armor [3/3] (100%)
    [b] [ Weapon     ]   Butcher's Cleaver (5d6)
    [c] [ Boots      ]   phaseshift boots [4/4] (100%) (A)
    [d] [ Prepared   ]   super shotgun (9d4)x2 [2/2] (P1)

-- Inventory -------------------------------------------------

    [a] rocket launcher (6d6) [1/1]
    [b] nanofiber red armor [2]
    [c] Necroarmor [6/6] (100%)
    [d] shotgun shell (x50)
    [e] shotgun shell (x50)
    [f] shotgun shell (x15)
    [g] rocket (x7)
    [h] large med-pack
    [i] large med-pack
    [j] large med-pack
    [k] large med-pack
    [l] large med-pack
    [m] phase device
    [n] envirosuit pack
    [o] thermonuclear bomb
    [p] power mod pack
    [q] agility mod pack
    [r] shockwave pack
    [s] Hell Staff
    [t] phaseshift boots [2/4] (34%) (A)

-- Resistances -----------------------------------------------

    Bullet     - internal 60%   torso 60%   feet 60% 
    Melee      - internal 60%   torso 60%   feet 60% 
    Shrapnel   - internal 60%   torso 60%   feet 60% 
    Acid       - internal 60%   torso 90%   feet 60% 
    Fire       - internal 60%   torso 90%   feet 60% 
    Plasma     - internal 60%   torso 90%   feet 60% 

-- Kills -----------------------------------------------------

    240 former humans
    398 former sergeants
    373 former captains
    223 imps
    60 demons
    204 lost souls
    72 cacodemons
    155 hell knights
    478 barons of hell
    245 arachnotrons
    23 former commandos
    19 pain elementals
    308 revenants
    282 mancubi
    355 arch-viles
    55 nightmare imps
    129 nightmare cacodemons
    114 nightmare demons
    110 nightmare arachnotrons
    5 nightmare arch-viles
    47 bruiser brothers
    8 shamblers
    2 lava elemental
    2 agony elementals
    4 Cyberdemons

-- History ---------------------------------------------------

  On level 1 he found the Butcher's Cleaver!
  On level 15 he assembled a nanofiber armor!
  On level 17 he stumbled into complex full of revenants!
  Level 17 blasted him with unholy atmosphere!
  On level 19 he found the Hell Staff!
  On level 20 he found the Malek's Armor!
  On level 21 he found the Grammaton Cleric Beretta!
  On level 24 he ran for his life from lava!
  On level 34 he ran for his life from lava!
  On level 36 he ran for his life from lava!
  On level 36 he found the Necroarmor!
  On level 38 he ran for his life from lava!
  Level 41 was a hard nut to crack!
  On level 44 he stumbled into a nightmare cacodemon cave!
  On level 45 he stumbled into a nightmare arachnotron cave!
  On level 46 he stumbled into complex full of arch-viles!
  On level 47 he ran for his life from lava!
  On level 52 he stumbled into a nightmare arachnotron cave!
  On level 53 he stumbled into a nightmare cacodemon cave!
  On level 54 he stumbled into a nightmare arachnotron cave!
  On level 57 he ran for his life from lava!
  On level 59 he stumbled into a nightmare arachnotron cave!
  He left level 59 as soon as possible.
  On level 61 he stumbled into complex full of revenants!
  He sounded the alarm on level 64!
  On level 76 he stumbled into a nightmare cacodemon cave!
  Level 77 was a hard nut to crack!
  On level 78 he ran for his life from lava!
  He sounded the alarm on level 79!
  On level 81 he ran for his life from lava!
  On level 89 he stumbled into complex full of arch-viles!
  On level 93 he stumbled into a nightmare demon cave!
  On level 94 he ran for his life from lava!
  On level 96 he stumbled into a nightmare cacodemon cave!
  He left level 99 as soon as possible.
  On level 100 he stumbled into a nightmare demon cave!
  On level 100 he finally completed 100 levels of torture.

-- Messages --------------------------------------------------

 You need to taste blood!
 You need to taste blood!
 You need to taste blood!
 You need to taste blood!
 You need to taste blood!
 You need to taste blood!
 You need to taste blood!
 You need to taste blood!
 You need to taste blood!
 You need to taste blood!
 There are stairs leading downward here. You need to taste blood!
 You did it! You completed 100 levels of DoomRL! You're the champion! Press
 <Enter>...
 You hit the nightmare demon. The nightmare demon dies. Next! You're going

-- General ---------------------------------------------------

 1876 brave souls have ventured into Phobos:
 1761 of those were killed.
 6 of those were killed by something unknown.
 16 didn't read the thermonuclear bomb manual.
 And 39 couldn't handle the stress and committed a stupid suicide.

 56 souls destroyed the Mastermind...
 15 sacrificed itself for the good of mankind.
 35 killed the bitch and survived.
 6 showed that it can outsmart hell itself.

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Just like most of my successful N! runs this one was pretty lucky.
I found plenty of red and blue armors until level 15, so i didn't suffer from lack of armor much. Somewhere near level 10 I found super shotgun and that made first quarter of the game much easier. At level 15 I found P pack - no more armor problems. Levels 19-21 were full of uniques and after I found Malek's armor there weren't much situations that could stop me.
There were some hard moments something like every 20 levels, when several bad levels without much globes and without any medkits occured in a row, but I managed to stay patient and not mess up in some crazy and frustrating way. Attempt took pretty long time because of experience cross so I got tired and after getting experience level 25 (somewhere near hell 85) I stopped trying to kill most hellspawn on level and just tried to find exit fast.

Also got God Hand rank!

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Re: [N!|Ao100|85%|YAVP] Centurial diamond & experience cross
« Reply #1 on: November 26, 2012, 18:45 »

Also got God Hand rank!


Whoa, what?  Wow!  15 Diamonds!  :o  Congrats on that!  :D  Cyberdemon experience rank too!  I know that takes a really long time to get!  I imagine you're close to getting Apostle rank then?  (Unless they changed the requirements in this version?)

And I've been thinking of trying for Ao100 N! YAAM at some point too, when I have a lot more free time.  Hopefully, when 0.9.9.7 comes out.  :)
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Re: [N!|Ao100|85%|YAVP] Centurial diamond & experience cross
« Reply #2 on: November 26, 2012, 20:37 »

!!!

Dang.  How many God Hand ranked players do we have lying around?  O.o

Good win!  I should get back into DoomRL after having dealt with the vagaries of life...  >.>
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Re: [N!|Ao100|85%|YAVP] Centurial diamond & experience cross
« Reply #3 on: November 27, 2012, 02:16 »

That is quite something. I can tell - I've been trying to pull off Ao100 n! for months now...
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Re: [N!|Ao100|85%|YAVP] Centurial diamond & experience cross
« Reply #4 on: November 27, 2012, 07:35 »

I imagine you're close to getting Apostle rank then?  (Unless they changed the requirements in this version?)

Since in this version Cyberdemon is not a final boss I had got lots of kills without winning the game, so I am pretty much far away from Apostle rank. Also got a lot of Cyberdemon kills while trying to speedrun ITYTD in less than 2 minutes 50 seconds.

That is quite something. I can tell - I've been trying to pull off Ao100 n! for months now...

You set too hard goal for yourself, I can hardly imagine how you could get to level 45 with perfect killing score.
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Re: [N!|Ao100|85%|YAVP] Centurial diamond & experience cross
« Reply #5 on: November 27, 2012, 07:50 »

Well the way I see it, the more kills I get, the more XP and the easier the game should become. Also, enemies are usually most dangerous when entering the level, so moping up the stragglers isn't that difficult. The only issue is time. 25 levels took me 3 hours, so the whole game will be around half a day. Good thing DoomRL stays stable when I put my computer to hybernate.
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Re: [N!|Ao100|85%|YAVP] Centurial diamond & experience cross
« Reply #6 on: November 30, 2012, 05:50 »

Looked at Apostle rank conditions and i think Im never getting it. Its just madness.

Also remembered two facts about this run.
Somewhere in the middle of the run error message appeared and scared me a lot, but the game didn't crush.
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Second fact is that I noticed many times that mancubi shoot at me from sight+1 distance, I don't know if their ai should behave like that.
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Re: [N!|Ao100|85%|YAVP] Centurial diamond & experience cross
« Reply #7 on: November 30, 2012, 08:27 »

Second fact is that I noticed many times that mancubi shoot at me from sight+1 distance, I don't know if their ai should behave like that.
Mancubi don't have a greater sight range than the player, but they will continuously attack the same spot if the player happens to leave their sight. It's meant to emulate the Mancubi from Doom II, where they always shoot three times.
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Re: [N!|Ao100|85%|YAVP] Centurial diamond & experience cross
« Reply #8 on: November 30, 2012, 08:56 »

I like that mechanic. It can sometimes catch you off guard and makes them much more scary. Kinda makes up for the fact that they are quite slow and can usually be easily outmanoeuvred.
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Re: [N!|Ao100|85%|YAVP] Centurial diamond & experience cross
« Reply #9 on: November 30, 2012, 12:18 »

Mancubi don't have a greater sight range than the player, but they will continuously attack the same spot if the player happens to leave their sight. It's meant to emulate the Mancubi from Doom II, where they always shoot three times.

Well, i may be wrong, but I was referring to the exact situation when mancubus shot me from that distance with his first shot. For example: i am moving to the right with some steps up and down (killing enemies in melee) and suddenly a mancubus shoots from the right even though I don't see him and the location is pretty open.
Maybe I made mistake since I moved pretty fast and maybe I just didn't notice when mancubus got into my field of view and then I just got instantly knockbacked. But it was his first shot, i am certain.

If the thing above is right, i should change mancubi color to something more noticeable, since it is not a first time something like that happened ).
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Re: [N!|Ao100|85%|YAVP] Centurial diamond & experience cross
« Reply #10 on: November 30, 2012, 12:42 »

Well, i may be wrong, but I was referring to the exact situation when mancubus shot me from that distance with his first shot. For example: i am moving to the right with some steps up and down (killing enemies in melee) and suddenly a mancubus shoots from the right even though I don't see him and the location is pretty open.
Maybe I made mistake since I moved pretty fast and maybe I just didn't notice when mancubus got into my field of view and then I just got instantly knockbacked. But it was his first shot, i am certain.

If the thing above is right, i should change mancubi color to something more noticeable, since it is not a first time something like that happened ).

Based on my experience, it really was you coming into their sight first. Happened to me quite a number of times, but I really can't recall ever being shot from out of sight without moving towards the M first.

That's why radarshooting is highly advisable when hearing an M in an open room.
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Re: [N!|Ao100|85%|YAVP] Centurial diamond & experience cross
« Reply #11 on: December 01, 2012, 03:08 »

I have occasionally had the feeling that a mancubus shot at me outside sight range after I radar-shot him. I'm probably wrong about it, but in any case, I thought it would make a nice feature.
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