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Nightmare! difficulty not Accessible to slow players
Tormuse:
--- Quote from: thelaptop on March 28, 2013, 12:18 ---If you can't "beast" N! within 2 hours, perhaps your skill in the game hasn't reached that level. In that case, play at a level that you are comfortable with.
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This quote made me curious about what my average Nightmare! times are, so I browsed through my old mortems...
Spoiler: Lots of links (click to show/hide)3 hours
2 hours
48 hours
0.5 hour
5 hours
77.5 hours!
4 hours
5.5 hours
2.5 hours
3 hours
3 hours
3.5 hours
0.5 hours
9.5 hours
1.5 hours
0.2 hours
25.5 hours
1.5 hours
25.5 hours
3 hours
16 hours
17 hours
5 hours
0.2 hours
32.5 hours
28 hours
1 hour
4.5 hours
0.2 hours
0.5 hours
(Hopefully, I didn't miss anything) :P
There's a wide range of times, because I'm including both Ao100 games and speedruns, but all of the above listed games are Nightmare! games in which I won. I'm doing a lot of rounding with the times, but it gives a good cross-section of my playing speed. The average comes to just under 12 hours per game.
So, thelaptop, do you still say this means that I'm a "not skilled enough" player that should "play at a more comfortable level?" ;)
I'm being facetious, of course, but my point is that difficulty and skill have nothing to do with this discussion. Fairness has nothing to do with this discussion. Not being able to save doesn't mean you need to be more "skilled" to complete the game and being able to save doesn't make the game more "fair." I think yaflhdztioxo had an excellent point in the other thread that the purpose of not being able to save at N! is a psychological one. It's a kick in the balls to remind you of what you signed up for. I get that. I understand it. It works quite well, actually. I've tolerated it up until now because it's the only way I can win Diamond badges, but I still find it a nuisance leaving my computer on for long hours and I still think it's prudent to make an exception in the case of Ao100 and AAo666 because some people might not be able to leave their game running all day and all night and I don't like the idea of penalizing them like this.
The Devteam is welcome to do whatever they want regarding this issue, but this is my opinion and I'm sticking to it. :)
Ashannar:
--- Quote from: Matt_S on March 28, 2013, 20:59 ---I'm disappointed that something that even a couple of supporters would want is simply non-negotiable, but fine. I won't ever bring the subject up again.
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I definitely wouldn't want the developers to kowtow to everything supporters want. That'd be a good way to ruin the game. I think the game is great, and I was perhaps a bit too negative earlier.
Does anyone know if you can alt-tab out of the game and then put your computer in sleep mode and then resume your game when you un-sleep your computer? That would be a good workaround for me.
MaiZure:
--- Quote from: Ashannar on March 28, 2013, 23:02 ---Does anyone know if you can alt-tab out of the game and then put your computer in sleep mode and then resume your game when you un-sleep your computer? That would be a good workaround for me.
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I believe the answer is yes - I play exclusively on a laptop and I have had to just close it and move (making it hibernate) many times, including in the recent version. I have no problems opening it back up and jumping back in to the game.
The only real danger is forgetting just how precious my situation was at the time I broke the DoomRL mind-meld. "Oh yeah - this was AoMC and that Baron just blasted me down to 5%"
AlterAsc:
Hibernate works for me too.
Klear:
Hibernation once messed up my chrome, but DoomRL is as stable as ever if you hibernate/sleep.
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