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[Sereg]

Edit: Angelic

Didn't find a level where I could farm formers for killcount and ammo, but managed to stairdive into a lucky Invulnerability globe for an easy damageless mastermind. Proof of concept for probably the only Angelic badge within my reach.

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 DoomRL (0.9.9.7) roguelike post-mortem character dump
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 Nathan, level 5 Cyberdemon Lt. General Scout,
 defeated the Mastermind at the City of Dis.
 He survived 11357 turns and scored 92824 points.
 He played for 5 minutes and 40 seconds.
 He opposed the Nightmare!

 He killed 62 out of 274 hellspawn. (22%)
 Who gave him the ticket to Hell, anyway?
 He was an Angel of Shotgunnery!
 He was also an Angel of Overconfidence!

-- Special levels --------------------------------------------

  Levels generated : 4
  Levels visited   : 2
  Levels completed : 0

-- Awards ----------------------------------------------------

  Mastermind's Brain
  Shottyman Gold Badge
  Shottyman Platinum Badge

-- Graveyard -------------------------------------------------

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-- Statistics ------------------------------------------------

  Health 58/50   Experience 8392/5
  ToHit Ranged +0  ToHit Melee +0  ToDmg Ranged +0  ToDmg Melee +0

-- Traits ----------------------------------------------------

  Class : Scout

    Hellrunner       (Level 1)
    Reloader         (Level 2)
    Intuition        (Level 2)

  Int->Int->HR->Rel->Rel->

-- Equipment -------------------------------------------------

    [a] [ Armor      ]   green armor [1/1] (12%)
    [b] [ Weapon     ]   double shotgun (9d3)x2 [0/2]
    [c] [ Boots      ]   plasteel boots [2/2] (100%)
    [d] [ Prepared   ]   shell box (x20)

-- Inventory -------------------------------------------------

    [a] assault shotgun (7d3) [1/6]
    [b] small med-pack
    [c] phase device
    [d] power mod pack
    [e] agility mod pack
    [f] onyx armor pack

-- Resistances -----------------------------------------------

    Bullet     - internal 0%    torso 3%    feet 0%   
    Shrapnel   - internal 0%    torso 3%    feet 0%   
    Acid       - internal 0%    torso 0%    feet 50% 
    Fire       - internal 0%    torso 0%    feet 25% 

-- Kills -----------------------------------------------------

    7 former humans
    12 former sergeants
    4 former captains
    9 imps
    12 demons
    4 hell knights
    4 barons of hell
    1 former commando
    6 mancubi
    2 arch-viles
    1 Spider Mastermind

-- History ---------------------------------------------------

  On level 1 he stumbled into a complex full of mancubi!
  He left level 1 as soon as possible.
  On level 1 he invaded the Unholy Cathedral!
  He fled the Unholy Cathedral seeing no chance to win.
  He left level 2 as soon as possible.
  On level 3 he entered the Vaults.
  He came, he saw, but he left.
  On level 5 he ran for his life from lava!
  On level 7 he ran for his life from lava!
  Then at last he found Dis!
  On level 8 he finally defeated the Mastermind.

-- Messages --------------------------------------------------

 The Spider Mastermind flinched!
 You quickly reload the double shotgun. You are hit! You are hit! You are hit!
 You are hit! You are hit! You are hit!
 Fire -- Choose target...
 You see : a Spider Mastermind (almost dead) | blood | [ m ]ore
 The Spider Mastermind flinched!
 You quickly reload the double shotgun. You are hit! You are hit! You are hit!
 You are hit! You are hit! You are hit!
 Fire -- Choose target...
 You see : a Spider Mastermind (almost dead) | pool of blood | [ m ]ore
 You are hit! You are hit! You are hit! You are hit! You are hit!
 You quickly reload the double shotgun.
 Fire -- Choose target...
 You see : a Spider Mastermind (almost dead) | pool of blood | [ m ]ore
 The Spider Mastermind dies. Congratulations! You defeated the Spider
 Mastermind! Press <Enter>...

-- General ---------------------------------------------------

 2070 brave souls have ventured into Phobos:
 1887 of those were killed.
 6 of those were killed by something unknown.
 38 didn't read the thermonuclear bomb manual.
 And 103 couldn't handle the stress and committed a stupid suicide.

 36 souls destroyed the Mastermind...
 6 sacrificed itself for the good of mankind.
 30 killed the bitch and survived.

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[Neok]

Instead of farming for kill-count, try perma-killing enemies (so that they don't leave a corpse behind). It's faster and a lot easier to manage. I find killing enemies inside doorways to be the easiest method of doing this, though knocking them into lava works too when you don't have as many options.

[Sereg]

I do when I can, but even good layouts for N! floors can be dangerous to a low level doomguy without a ridiculous damage output - less good layouts are death sentences. Here's a mortem from a failed run where I had to stop in what looked like a safe room to try permakilling some stuff so I could get to the stairs:

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 DoomRL (0.9.9.7) roguelike post-mortem character dump
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 Nathan, level 5 Cyberdemon Lt. General Scout,
 was bruised by a baron of hell on level 4 of Hell.
 He survived 247662 turns and scored 47384 points.
 He played for 1 hour, 37 minutes and 56 seconds.
 He opposed the Nightmare!

 He killed 1241 out of 1349 hellspawn. (91%)
 He held his right to remain violent.
 He was an Angel of Shotgunnery!
 He was also an Angel of Overconfidence!

-- Special levels --------------------------------------------

  Levels generated : 4
  Levels visited   : 1
  Levels completed : 0

-- Awards ----------------------------------------------------

  UAC Star (gold cluster)

-- Graveyard -------------------------------------------------

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-- Statistics ------------------------------------------------

  Health 0/50   Experience 7904/5
  ToHit Ranged +0  ToHit Melee +0  ToDmg Ranged +0  ToDmg Melee +0

-- Traits ----------------------------------------------------

  Class : Scout

    Hellrunner       (Level 1)
    Reloader         (Level 2)
    Intuition        (Level 2)

  Int->Int->HR->Rel->Rel->

-- Equipment -------------------------------------------------

    [a] [ Armor      ]   Medical Powerarmor [0/4] (0%)
    [b] [ Weapon     ]   assault shotgun (7d3) [1/6] (T1)
    [c] [ Boots      ]   protective boots [2/2] (100%)
    [d] [ Prepared   ]   nothing

-- Inventory -------------------------------------------------

    [a] shotgun (8d3) [1/1]
    [b] shotgun shell (x50)
    [c] shotgun shell (x50)
    [d] shotgun shell (x50)
    [e] shotgun shell (x50)
    [f] shotgun shell (x50)
    [g] shotgun shell (x50)
    [h] shotgun shell (x50)
    [i] shotgun shell (x50)
    [j] shotgun shell (x50)
    [k] shotgun shell (x50)
    [l] shotgun shell (x50)
    [m] shotgun shell (x50)
    [n] shotgun shell (x50)
    [o] shotgun shell (x25)
    [p] shotgun shell (x50)
    [q] large med-pack
    [r] large med-pack
    [s] phase device
    [t] thermonuclear bomb
    [u] shockwave pack

-- Resistances -----------------------------------------------

    Acid       - internal 0%    torso 0%    feet 25% 

-- Kills -----------------------------------------------------

    20 former humans
    1147 former sergeants
    8 former captains
    4 imps
    1 demon
    21 lost souls
    5 former commandos
    2 pain elementals
    29 revenants
    4 arch-viles

-- History ---------------------------------------------------

  On level 3 he entered the Vaults.
  He came, he saw, but he left.
  On level 4 he found the Medical Powerarmor!
  On level 4 he finally was bruised by a baron of hell.

-- Messages --------------------------------------------------

 The arch-vile raises his arms!
 Fire -- Choose target...
 You see : an arch-vile (severely wounded) | lava | [ m ]ore
 Your weapon is empty.
 Your weapon is empty.
 You reload the assault shotgun. You are engulfed in flames! Your Medical
 Powerarmor is damaged!
 You reload the assault shotgun.
 Fire -- Choose target...
 You see : an arch-vile (severely wounded) | lava | [ m ]ore
 The arch-vile raises his arms!
 You reload the assault shotgun.
 Fire -- Choose target...
 You see : an arch-vile (mortally wounded) | lava | [ m ]ore
 You are engulfed in flames! Your Medical Powerarmor is damaged! You dodge!
 Your Medical Powerarmor is damaged! You die!... Press <Enter>...

-- General ---------------------------------------------------

 2117 brave souls have ventured into Phobos:
 1931 of those were killed.
 6 of those were killed by something unknown.
 39 didn't read the thermonuclear bomb manual.
 And 105 couldn't handle the stress and committed a stupid suicide.

 36 souls destroyed the Mastermind...
 6 sacrificed itself for the good of mankind.
 30 killed the bitch and survived.

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This was after my initial farm floor, where I slaughtered a former sergeant hundreds of times for killcount and ammunition. I couldn't have been better prepared for a stairdive. But then in that floor, I got caught in a room by an archvile who shredded a wall and then somehow popped a barrel outside my vision(I think it was behind the wall that was still there, somehow) for an unexpected death.

Trying to permakill every floor is not something I'm capable of at my own skill level without unbelievable luck in level generation. I saw your Elite and Veteran Diamond badge mortem, and it's clear you have the skill level for this, but without it, this is the only strategy that's remotely viable for me.

[Neok]

Yeah, that's definitely happened to me more times than I'd like (Ammo-farming some poor former for huge stacks, only to get gibbed the next floor down). You're right, though. Getting a decent starting position each floor is key to surviving this challenge, since for the most part, you can't rely on shotguns to take anything massive down very quickly. Level gen can make or break your run too, but I've found every level to be built with at least some way of perma-killing, so at least you'll mostly never be without a means. That said, one of the most tedious N! levels I had to do with just a shotgun involved luring everyone to this tiny puddle of water (it was one of those maze-like 'Where's the exit!?' type levels with lots of walls, but no doors, as well as being early on in Phobos, so no lava/acid barrels either) and gibbing them over it. That was certainly more painful than it was worth.

[Sereg]

Another trouble I have with gibbing with shotguns is that knockback seems variable.

I can't always get corpses to stack, which is generally what I resort to early on if I can't move around much, and doors aren't guaranteed from every position. Also, trying to position for door gibs can be risky, since sometimes things die earlier or later then expected, and leave corpses in ungibbable places or land some damage - I've had quite a few runs go bad due to arachnos getting off bursts or leaving corpses in bad places.

[ZicherCZ]

Another trouble I have with gibbing with shotguns is that knockback seems variable.

That's because it indeed is variable.
Shotguns knock a target back one square per 7 damage dealt (opposed to 12 damage of most other weapons), so a regular shotgun can knockback anywhere from zero to three squares. I believe that the damage calculation for knockback purpose is not affected by resistances and protection (but of course, worn armours can have knockback modifiers that apply).