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[Mech__Warrior]

I was doing pretty good with Angel of Shotgunnery, until I stumbled into Demios Lab and found out the Plasmatic Double Barreled Shotgun destroys cover. I had about 8 large medkits but used them all up due to the Shamblers hitting me constantly and teleporting all over the place. I did prevail, but taking on the Cyberdemon with zero dodge?! F-that. Managed to survive and hide for about 1000 turns until he fed me yet another rocket.

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 DoomRL (0.9.9.7) roguelike post-mortem character dump
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 Ashannar, level 8 Demon Corporal Marine,
 was splattered by a Cyberdemon at the Tower of Babel.
 He survived 100226 turns and scored 47423 points.
 He played for 2 hours, 2 minutes and 28 seconds.
 He didn't like it too rough.

 He killed 402 out of 403 hellspawn. (99%)
 He was a real killing machine...
 He was an Angel of Shotgunnery!

-- Special levels --------------------------------------------

  Levels generated : 11
  Levels visited   : 5
  Levels completed : 5

-- Awards ----------------------------------------------------

  Hell Armorer Badge
  Hell Champion Medal
  Brick Silver Badge
  Shottyman Bronze Badge

-- Graveyard -------------------------------------------------

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-- Statistics ------------------------------------------------

  Health 0/70   Experience 29284/8
  ToHit Ranged +0  ToHit Melee +0  ToDmg Ranged +2  ToDmg Melee +2

-- Traits ----------------------------------------------------

  Class : Marine

    Ironman          (Level 1)
    Son of a bitch   (Level 2)
    Reloader         (Level 2)
    Badass           (Level 1)
    Shottyman        (Level 1)
    Army of the Dead (Level 1)

  Rel->SoB->Bad->Rel->SM->MAD->SoB->Iro->

-- Equipment -------------------------------------------------

    [a] [ Armor      ]   tactical armor [0/0] (44%)
    [b] [ Weapon     ]   plasmatic double shotgun (9d3)x2 [0/2]
    [c] [ Boots      ]   fireproof protective boots [2/2] (92%)
    [d] [ Prepared   ]   shell box (x93)

-- Inventory -------------------------------------------------

    [a] tactical shotgun (8d3) [5/5]
    [b] tactical armor [0/0] (4%)
    [c] ballistic blue armor [1/2] (27%)
    [d] fireproof blue armor [1/2] (30%)
    [e] blue armor [2/2] (60%) (T)
    [f] shotgun shell (x43)
    [g] shotgun shell (x70)
    [h] phase device
    [i] phase device
    [j] homing phase device
    [k] envirosuit pack
    [l] envirosuit pack
    [m] envirosuit pack
    [n] envirosuit pack
    [o] power mod pack
    [p] power mod pack
    [q] Arena Master's Staff

-- Resistances -----------------------------------------------

    Acid       - internal 0%    torso 0%    feet 25% 
    Fire       - internal 0%    torso 0%    feet 30% 

-- Kills -----------------------------------------------------

    111 former humans
    49 former sergeants
    10 former captains
    48 imps
    44 demons
    82 lost souls
    19 cacodemons
    15 hell knights
    8 barons of hell
    5 arachnotrons
    1 former commando
    3 pain elementals
    1 revenant
    1 mancubus
    2 bruiser brothers
    2 shamblers
    1 Arena Master

-- History ---------------------------------------------------

  He started his journey on the surface of Phobos.
  On level 2 he entered Hell's Arena.
  He left the Arena as a champion!
  On level 5 he stormed the Chained Court.
  On level 5 he found the Arena Master's Staff!
  He defeated the Hell Arena Master!
  On level 6 he assembled a tactical shotgun!
  On level 7 he sneaked into the Phobos Lab.
  On level 7 he assembled a plasmatic shrapnel!
  He broke through the lab.
  On level 8 he encountered the Phobos Anomaly.
  On level 9 he entered Deimos Lab.
  On level 9 he assembled a fireproof armor!
  He destroyed the evil within and reaped the rewards!
  Level 11 was a hard nut to crack!
  On level 11 he witnessed the Wall.
  He massacred the evil behind the Wall!
  On level 12 he assembled a fireproof boots!
  On level 15 he assembled a ballistic armor!
  On level 16 he found the Tower of Babel!
  On level 16 he assembled a tactical armor!
  On level 16 he assembled a tactical armor!
  On level 16 he finally was splattered by a Cyberdemon.

-- Messages --------------------------------------------------

 Fire -- Choose target...
 You see : a Cyberdemon (scratched) | blood | [ m ]ore
 The Cyberdemon reloads his rocket launcher.
 You dodge!
 Fire -- Choose target...
 You see : a Cyberdemon (scratched) | blood | [ m ]ore
 The Cyberdemon reloads his rocket launcher.
 Fire -- Choose target...
 You see : a Cyberdemon (scratched) | blood | [ m ]ore
 You are hit!
 Fire -- Choose target...
 You see : a Cyberdemon (scratched) | floor | [ m ]ore
 The Cyberdemon reloads his rocket launcher.
 Fire -- Choose target...
 You see : a Cyberdemon (lightly wounded) | floor | [ m ]ore
 You are hit! You die!... Press <Enter>...

-- General ---------------------------------------------------

 45 brave souls have ventured into Phobos:
 43 of those were killed.
 1 didn't read the thermonuclear bomb manual.
 And 1 couldn't handle the stress and committed a stupid suicide.

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[White Rider]

For future reference please use the [mortem ] tags when posting post-mortem posts. Dump your mortem text dump and enclose it with [mortem ] and [/mortem ].

You could have tried to take down the Cyberdemon despite not having any dodge. Hiding from it isn't going to make Cybie forget about you, you know. Too bad about your fireproof blue armor. Though I feel that fireproof red is better than fireproof blue.

I don't think you needed two tac armors. Tac armor regens durability over time as long as you have it equipped, so if you have a tac armor that's badly damaged you can swap it out for another armor (or not wear any armor at all), clear out the floor, and then wear your tac armor again and wait for it to regen.

Three blue armors? Four envirosuits?? At most you can carry one or two and you should be fine. Maybe two for Hell, but you definitely don't need four.

Nice Brick Silver badge though.

[Juice]

Assembling two tactical armors on boss lvl isn't probably a good idea, unless you went for technician badges.

Also, very nice Brick Silver, I haven't had the luck to clear The Wall on AoB/AoMr/AoSh yet - no lucky phases or wall-destroying guns for me so far.

[ZicherCZ]

You weren't exactly using running tactics too much, were you?
You had the plasmatic DS ready for the Shambler, so just running around it and firing from close range would kill him in no time. If he ports, just wait till he comes back to you, the regeneration is not that fast. Blue armor helps a lot here.
And this would save you the vital medkits for Cybie, where you would just utilise the same tactics.

[singalen]

Four envirosuits?? At most you can carry one or two and you should be fine. Maybe two for Hell, but you definitely don't need four.

Envirosuit also ups your BODY resistances a little, so it could have helped against Cybie.
And, BTW, Lava Pits.

[Mech__Warrior]

I didn't know about the Mortem tags, so I do apologize about that. I'll remember for next time.

The thing was is that I was having some bad luck. Cybie was hitting me consistently with his rockets, and I panicked. My Fireproof Blue Armor took some serious damage from the Demios Lab, so I was trying to find armor scraps to fix it up. I would have made Fireproof Red, but the Red you get in the Anomaly didn't survive the assault of Lost Souls, so I tried to make things work with the next best thing I had.

I was trying to run and gun, but I'm still relatively new at getting far in DoomRL. I was trying to hide behind those small corners in the Lab, trying to get corner shots off at them but they ended up going through two of the Blue Armors I found. I was also fighting two at the same time. I should have used the 'look' key to focus one down before taking on the other, but its in the past now.

I also have a tendency to horde things in games because, well, you never know when you'll need those four envirosuits or get another. :) I thought I only had two at the time, huh.

[White Rider]

Envirosuit also ups your BODY resistances a little, so it could have helped against Cybie.

Marginally, I suppose. What was it, +25% acid and fire resist while you have an envirosuit active? Definitely an oddball way to go about fighting Cybie, but if it works, who am I to complain.

And, BTW, Lava Pits.

Fireproof boots, and maybe two envirosuits at most. Four is overkill--those two slots could have been used for other things, like ammo or heals.
Also phase device-ing your way across Lava Pits is hilarious.

[Mech__Warrior]

So I reached good ol' Uncle Cybie again, and this time he stomped me. I ran out of ammo for my shotguns and since he was almost dead, I could punch him to death! Well, I was wrong...

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 DoomRL (0.9.9.7) roguelike post-mortem character dump
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 Ian McTaggart,
 level 9 Demon Corporal Scout,
 was ripped apart by a Cyberdemon at the Tower of Babel.
 He survived 57376 turns and scored 50194 points.
 He played for 2 hours, 6 minutes and 24 seconds.
 He didn't like it too rough.

 He killed 511 out of 525 hellspawn. (97%)
 He held his right to remain violent.
 He was an Angel of Shotgunnery!

-- Special levels --------------------------------------------

  Levels generated : 11
  Levels visited   : 7
  Levels completed : 6

-- Awards ----------------------------------------------------

  UAC Star (silver cluster)
  Hell Armorer Badge
  Hell Champion Medal

-- Graveyard -------------------------------------------------

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-- Statistics ------------------------------------------------

  Health 0/50   Experience 31724/9
  ToHit Ranged +0  ToHit Melee +0  ToDmg Ranged +0  ToDmg Melee +0

-- Traits ----------------------------------------------------

  Class : Scout

    Finesse          (Level 1)
    Hellrunner       (Level 2)
    Reloader         (Level 2)
    Juggler          (Level 1)
    Dodgemaster      (Level 1)
    Shottyman        (Level 1)
    Shottyhead       (Level 1)

  Rel->HR->HR->DM->Rel->SM->Fin->Jug->MSh->

-- Equipment -------------------------------------------------

    [a] [ Armor      ]   fireproof red armor [1/4] (8%)
    [b] [ Weapon     ]   combat shotgun (7d3) [0/5] (T1)
    [c] [ Boots      ]   Nyarlaptotep's Boots [6/6] (100%)
    [d] [ Prepared   ]   nothing

-- Inventory -------------------------------------------------

    [a] double shotgun (9d3)x2 [0/2]
    [b] tactical armor [0/0] (100%)
    [c] red armor [4/4] (98%)
    [d] red armor [4/4] (100%)
    [e] phase device
    [f] homing phase device
    [g] envirosuit pack
    [h] bulk mod pack
    [i] bulk mod pack
    [j] Arena Master's Staff
    [k] tactical boots [0/0] (100%)
    [l] fireproof plasteel boots [2/2] (98%)

-- Resistances -----------------------------------------------

    Melee      - internal 0%    torso -30%  feet 0%   
    Acid       - internal 25%   torso 25%   feet 55% 
    Fire       - internal 25%   torso 38%   feet 55% 

-- Kills -----------------------------------------------------

    109 former humans
    45 former sergeants
    10 former captains
    85 imps
    64 demons
    128 lost souls
    33 cacodemons
    14 hell knights
    5 barons of hell
    3 arachnotrons
    1 former commando
    9 pain elementals
    2 bruiser brothers
    1 shambler
    1 agony elemental
    1 Arena Master

-- History ---------------------------------------------------

  He started his journey on the surface of Phobos.
  On level 2 he entered Hell's Arena.
  He left the Arena as a champion!
  On level 5 he stormed the Chained Court.
  On level 5 he found the Arena Master's Staff!
  He defeated the Hell Arena Master!
  On level 7 he sneaked into the Phobos Lab.
  On level 7 he assembled a tactical armor!
  He broke through the lab.
  On level 8 he encountered the Phobos Anomaly.
  On level 9 he entered Hell's Armory.
  On level 9 he found the Nyarlaptotep's Boots!
  He destroyed the evil within and reaped the rewards!
  On level 10 he assembled a fireproof armor!
  On level 11 he witnessed the Wall.
  Not knowing what to do, he left.
  On level 12 he romped upon the Abyssal Plains.
  He slaughtered the beasts living there.
  On level 14 he assembled a fireproof boots!
  On level 14 he ventured into the Halls of Carnage.
  Level 15 was a hard nut to crack!
  On level 15 he assembled a tactical boots!
  On level 16 he found the Tower of Babel!
  On level 16 he finally was ripped apart by a Cyberdemon.

-- Messages --------------------------------------------------

 You pump a shell into the shotgun chamber. The Cyberdemon reloads his rocket
 launcher.
 Fire -- Choose target...
 You see : a Cyberdemon (almost dead) | floor | [ m ]ore
 You pump a shell into the shotgun chamber.
 Fire -- Choose target...
 You see : a Cyberdemon (almost dead) | floor | [ m ]ore
 You dodge!
 You use a fire skull. The Cyberdemon reloads his rocket launcher.
 You use a large med-pack. You feel fully healed.
 The Cyberdemon hits you. Your fireproof red armor is damaged!
 You hit the Cyberdemon. The Cyberdemon hits you.
 You dodge!
 You hit the Cyberdemon.
 You hit the Cyberdemon. The Cyberdemon hits you. Your fireproof red armor is
 damaged! You die!... Press <Enter>...

-- General ---------------------------------------------------

 49 brave souls have ventured into Phobos:
 47 of those were killed.
 1 didn't read the thermonuclear bomb manual.
 And 1 couldn't handle the stress and committed a stupid suicide.

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I will say Fireproof Red Armor is one of the best inventions created by man, and I was only taking about 5% of damage from the rockets. Pretty nifty.

[Klear]

Be careful with the fireproof armour though - while it increases your fire resistance, melee damage actually hurts more. And Cybie hits hard if you're not zerked. In any case, when it comes to shotguns, there's rarely such a thing as too much ammo.

[Mech__Warrior]

Be careful with the fireproof armour though - while it increases your fire resistance, melee damage actually hurts more. And Cybie hits hard if you're not zerked. In any case, when it comes to shotguns, there's rarely such a thing as too much ammo.

Maybe that was it. Either way, I kind of knew I was dead anyway. I didn't think I would run out of ammo either, having like 200 shotgun shells or so, but it ended up happening. I had a box full of shells and 100 rounds on me.

[Klear]

Shotgun damage drops off quite a lot with distance, and with Cybie's armour (and the fact that armour blocks twice as much damage from shells) it's quite possible to run out if you're keeping your distance. There's nothing better than dancing around him just outside melee range and unloading double shotgun into his face, but dodgemaster is a must for that kind of tactic.

Pseudoedit: I see you did have dodgemaster - you should have kept at minimum range throughout the fight. With dodgemaster, when you move, the first projectile of every monster will target the square you were standing on before you moved, so if you move around him, Cybie can't really hit you (except for spalsh damage if you are standing in front of a pillar). All you need to do is move until he shoot, and then you are free to shoot at him until you see the message (and hear the sound) that he reloads his rocket launcher. Until that happens, he can't hurt you (except in melee), so you are safe. Once he reloads, just move around some more until he wastes his shot. Repeat. With a bit of practice, you'll be able to take him down without taking any damage soon.

The other basic strategy for taking him down is going melee, getting berserk, and just cutting him up with a chainsaw. The Berserker trait is a must in that case though.

[White Rider]

You use a fire skull. The Cyberdemon reloads his rocket launcher.

Good on you for trial and error I suppose. I guess you might know this now but any fire/blood/hatred skulls requires corpses to do anything.

[Mech__Warrior]

Shotgun damage drops off quite a lot with distance, and with Cybie's armour (and the fact that armour blocks twice as much damage from shells) it's quite possible to run out if you're keeping your distance. There's nothing better than dancing around him just outside melee range and unloading double shotgun into his face, but dodgemaster is a must for that kind of tactic.

Pseudoedit: I see you did have dodgemaster - you should have kept at minimum range throughout the fight. With dodgemaster, when you move, the first projectile of every monster will target the square you were standing on before you moved, so if you move around him, Cybie can't really hit you (except for spalsh damage if you are standing in front of a pillar). All you need to do is move until he shoot, and then you are free to shoot at him until you see the message (and hear the sound) that he reloads his rocket launcher. Until that happens, he can't hurt you (except in melee), so you are safe. Once he reloads, just move around some more until he wastes his shot. Repeat. With a bit of practice, you'll be able to take him down without taking any damage soon.

The other basic strategy for taking him down is going melee, getting berserk, and just cutting him up with a chainsaw. The Berserker trait is a must in that case though.

It seemed like whenever I stopped to take a shot at him, he would blast me with a rocket. But now I'll know what to do for next time.

Good on you for trial and error I suppose. I guess you might know this now but any fire/blood/hatred skulls requires corpses to do anything.

I was trying anything at that point. I knew there weren't any corpses but I thought I would use it anyway. They don't call it a last ditch effort for nothing. :)