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[FlamingTP]

Tried to storm UC with a Hellwave Pack, forgot to bring any medkids and one demon still got away I had a nuke though. Worthy of a post considering it was my first attempt.

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 DoomRL (0.9.9.7) roguelike post-mortem character dump
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 Bolt, level 9 Cacodemon Sergeant Scout,
 nuked himself on level 1 of Hell.
 He survived 90598 turns and scored 58507 points.
 He played for 3 hours, 27 minutes and 10 seconds.
 He didn't like it too rough.

 He killed 521 out of 521 hellspawn. (100%)
 This ass-kicking marine killed all of them!

-- Special levels --------------------------------------------

  Levels generated : 11
  Levels visited   : 8
  Levels completed : 7

-- Awards ----------------------------------------------------

  UAC Star (bronze cluster)
  Hell Armorer Badge
  Hell Champion Medal
  Skull Bronze Badge
  Arachno Bronze Badge

-- Graveyard -------------------------------------------------

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-- Statistics ------------------------------------------------

  Health 0/50   Experience 38954/9
  ToHit Ranged +0  ToHit Melee +0  ToDmg Ranged +0  ToDmg Melee +0

-- Traits ----------------------------------------------------

  Class : Scout

    Finesse          (Level 1)
    Hellrunner       (Level 2)
    Son of a gun     (Level 2)
    Juggler          (Level 1)
    Dualgunner       (Level 1)
    Dodgemaster      (Level 1)
    Gunrunner        (Level 1)

  Fin->Jug->HR->HR->DM->MGr->SoG->SoG->DG->

-- Equipment -------------------------------------------------

    [a] [ Armor      ]   blue armor [1/2] (25%)
    [b] [ Weapon     ]   BFG 9000 (10d6) [100/100]
    [c] [ Boots      ]   plasteel boots [2/2] (100%) (T)
    [d] [ Prepared   ]   speedloader pistol (2d4) [6/6]

-- Inventory -------------------------------------------------

    [a] tactical shotgun (8d3) [5/5]
    [b] plasma rifle (1d7)x6 [40/40]
    [c] missile launcher (6d6) [3/4]
    [d] green armor [1/1] (72%)
    [e] chainsaw (4d6) (A)
    [f] 10mm ammo (x140)
    [g] 10mm ammo (x140)
    [h] shotgun shell (x26)
    [i] rocket (x14)
    [j] rocket (x4)
    [k] envirosuit pack
    [l] technical mod pack
    [m] Arena Master's Staff
    [n] 10mm ammo chain (x250)
    [o] shell box (x17)
    [p] rocket box (x20)

-- Resistances -----------------------------------------------

    Acid       - internal 0%    torso 0%    feet 50% 
    Fire       - internal 0%    torso 0%    feet 25% 
    Plasma     - internal 0%    torso 5%    feet 0%   

-- Kills -----------------------------------------------------

    94 former humans
    39 former sergeants
    10 former captains
    82 imps
    64 demons
    150 lost souls
    26 cacodemons
    15 hell knights
    9 barons of hell
    12 arachnotrons
    12 pain elementals
    1 mancubus
    2 bruiser brothers
    1 shambler
    1 agony elemental
    1 Angel of Death
    1 Cyberdemon
    1 Arena Master

-- History ---------------------------------------------------

  He started his journey on the surface of Phobos.
  On level 2 he entered Hell's Arena.
  He left the Arena as a champion!
  On level 5 he stormed the Chained Court.
  On level 5 he found the Arena Master's Staff!
  He defeated the Hell Arena Master!
  On level 6 he assembled a tactical shotgun!
  On level 7 he sneaked into the Phobos Lab.
  He broke through the lab.
  On level 8 he encountered the Phobos Anomaly.
  On level 9 he entered Hell's Armory.
  On level 9 he assembled a speedloader pistol!
  He destroyed the evil within and reaped the rewards!
  On level 11 he witnessed the Wall.
  He massacred the evil behind the Wall!
  On level 12 he romped upon the Abyssal Plains.
  He slaughtered the beasts living there.
  On level 14 he ventured into the Spider's Lair.
  He cleared the Lair, kickin' serious spider ass!
  On level 16 he found the Tower of Babel!
  Entering level 17 he was almost dead...
  On level 17 he found the Hellwave Pack!
  On level 17 he invaded the Unholy Cathedral!
  He nuked level 17!
  On level 17 he finally nuked himself.

-- Messages --------------------------------------------------

 You hit the demon. The demon dies.
 You hit the demon. The demon hits you. The demon hits you.
 You hit the demon.
 You hit the demon. The demon dies.
 You miss the demon. The demon hits you. Your blue armor is damaged! The demon
 hits you.
 You hit the demon. The demon hits you.
 You use a Hellwave Pack. You hear the scream of a freed soul! You hear the
 scream of a freed soul! The demon hits you.
 You see : out of vision
 You prepare the BFG 9000 instantly!
 You pull the trigger... nothing happens!
 You pull the trigger... nothing happens!
 Are you sure you want activate the thermonuclear bomb? [Y/n]
 You use a thermonuclear bomb. Warning! Explosion in 10 seconds! The demon
 hits you. You die!... Press <Enter>...

-- General ---------------------------------------------------

 24 brave souls have ventured into Phobos:
 20 of those were killed.
 1 didn't read the thermonuclear bomb manual.
 And 2 couldn't handle the stress and committed a stupid suicide.

 1 souls destroyed the Mastermind...
 1 sacrificed itself for the good of mankind.

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[thelaptop]

Hm.  Entering UC without melee weapons or melee traits.  Not sure if you know what you are doing...

If anything, it sounds like a suicide attempt here.  >.<

[White Rider]

You had a chainsaw in your inventory, but I don't think it would have helped you at all. Oh well, gg

[Tormuse]

Hm.  Entering UC without melee weapons or melee traits.  Not sure if you know what you are doing...

If anything, it sounds like a suicide attempt here.  >.<

Now, now, he probably just doesn't want to look at the spoiler files.  Actually, this looks a lot like my first attempt at the Unholy Cathedral.  (only there was no nuke in mine)  :P

But yeah, as you may have noticed, FlamingTP, ranged weapons don't work in UC, so you'll need some extra preparation for next time, and Berserker trait helps a lot.

[Eyro]

Yeah, I heard about the UC being a tough place, so when I finally got into it the first time on Angel of Shotgunnery, I got lucky.

I opened the first set of doors, then then saw the second and knew there would be mobs behind it.

I just thought "Welp, I'm gonna be a badass" and fired to destroy the doors with my shotgun.

Spoiler (click to show/hide)

*Click*

Huh?

*Clickclick*

Thank God I didn't open those doors. ._.

[FlamingTP]

Actually I did read up on the game, roguelikes are notoriously difficult and like Dwarf Fortress I knew spoilers wouldn't ruin my fun. and they haven't really.

Spoiler (click to show/hide)

My plan was to run past the demons and activate the Hell Wave pack next to the Angel of Death. then hope it hurt him enough to finish him off with the chainsaw. I got stuck in a corner though and it didn't kill all the demons, I took a stupid risk and got owned.

[ZicherCZ]

Spoiler (click to show/hide)

My plan was to run past the demons and activate the Hell Wave pack next to the Angel of Death. then hope it hurt him enough to finish him off with the chainsaw. I got stuck in a corner though and it didn't kill all the demons, I took a stupid risk and got owned.

Spoiler (click to show/hide)

Hellwave does 110 damage on average. AoD gas 290 HP on HNTR (more on higher difficulties), so you would take about 1/3 of his HP. Not that much.
If you want to seriously tackle the UC, you need the Berserker trait and a chainsaw (a knife may work, but it will take ages). Alternatively, if _both_ your attack and movement speed are very fast, you may kite him very safely - but in this case, be prepared for quite a long grind there.
Oh and by the way, to make things easier - try to lead the demons outside of the building and have them follow you through lava. If you're moving fast enough, it's satifaction guaranteed.

[White Rider]

Spoiler (click to show/hide)

Alternatively, if _both_ your attack and movement speed are very fast, you may kite him very safely - but in this case, be prepared for quite a long grind there.

I've never been able to figure out how one kites while staying melee...Is it just a matter of having enough attack speed to attack one turn and move away the next turn before you get hit? That sounds like it requires a metric shitton of both move speed and attack speed.

[Tormuse]

I've never been able to figure out how one kites while staying melee...Is it just a matter of having enough attack speed to attack one turn and move away the next turn before you get hit? That sounds like it requires a metric shitton of both move speed and attack speed.

If I'm not mistaken, a scout with 2 levels of Finesse and 2 levels of HR is just barely fast enough to do it, but then each step has to be very precise with almost no margin for error.  A tech mod on the Chainsaw and some agility mods on your armour will give you a bit more breathing room.  Regardless, expect to be chased around the Cathedral a few times.  :)

[ZicherCZ]

I've never been able to figure out how one kites while staying melee...Is it just a matter of having enough attack speed to attack one turn and move away the next turn before you get hit? That sounds like it requires a metric shitton of both move speed and attack speed.

See here for details. Basically Tormuse is right - a Scout with Fin2 and HR2 has both attack and movement speed at 0.64s compared to 0.67s speed of AoD. It's doable even without Brute, but expect a loooong and tedious fight (on N! it took me something between 30-40 minutes) with little to no margin for error.

[Moonshine Fox]

I still remember my first encounter with UC. I had no idea what I was, was feeling badass with my Shottyman and elephant gun.

"You pull the trigger. Nothing happens!"

"...FFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFF"

[thelaptop]

That is when you should observe the stairs that lead down immediately next to you, and exit the level.  >.<

No, seriously.  Escaping the previous level to the UC on a non-melee run is quite common, since exiting the UC is relatively easy.  That's another reason why you can win without killing everything.