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Shottyman Challenge
RepoRipper:
first point, u misunderstood, i explained in the other thread why.
second, ok i get it, in that case it should be a special prize in a tough secret level. on that note, i came up with a secret level, Shotgun Alley, where hordes of sergeants move around, with all the walls being doors, both locked and unlocked!
RepoRipper:
OH WOW! i decided to be a shotgunner for my AoLT bout, just got Shottyman! AWESOME DOUBLE SHOTGUN!!! now if only i could find an advanced one! i also have Int (3) and am going to go for hellwreaker rampage! "hello my Pain Elemental freinds, allow me to introduce you to my newest..." (note, AWESOME EXP TO GAIN THIS WAY!) any specific traits you would recommend? for a shotgunner? i also carry a plasma rifle for arachs and archviles.
TFoN:
Putting such a weapon in a special level's even worse: you have all of its advantages, and can simply swap to another weapon when the disadvantages kick in.
Also, compare it with the LS. The moment such a weapon's found, a balance nightmare commences. The "advantage" of the LS's that it requires a melee game to access, which most games don't follow. You'd have to come up with some really good limitation for accessing (and using) this weapon for it to not break down the balance of the entire game.
AFAIR PA-spawned Lost Souls don't give XP.
arch_8ngel:
I'm not sure where somebody got the idea of a zero-recoil chaingun...
The autocannon on an A-10 produces a 12,000 lb recoil (with a 30mm round)
Scale that down to the GE minigun (0.223 calibur) or a Bushmaster (0.30 calibur) and you're at least talking about the equivalent of an M-16.
The barrels don't spin because of force transfer -- they spin because they're driven by an electric motor.
If the battery dies, so goes the gun's ability to fire continuously.
Needless to say, I doubt anyone ever fired a minigun one handed (the miniguns used in T2 and Predator are actually real and fire real bullets...it's the only way to make the muzzle blast look right on film). The guys in Wolfenstien were giant supermutants that were engineered with the guns built into their bodies. BJ Blaskowitz had to 2-hand the sucker.
Anyway, I just thought the recoil comment was absurd and needed some rebuttle...
RepoRipper:
oh..... ty for correcting that misguided idea.
but seriously, it makes sense to use spinning force-transfer.
on the note of Recoil, i have a weapon idea (Real Life) for a rfle with a stopper on the end, fires a cartridge. the cartridge slams into the stopper, and the contents of the cartridge blast through the thinner lid. the contents are a liquid chemical that ignites upon contact with oxygen. ie think "Greek Fire" only if u put it out, it immediately ignites again. as soon as it touches oxygen. ie, a flaming liquid bullet! that Splashes!
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