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[Rabiat]

I'd never have made my first win if I hadn't found a chainsaw and the LS to beat the Arachnotrons in all these cave levels. I was lucky enough to find an Inv globe just before the UC so I could hack my way to AoD and kill him before invulnerability had worn off. Also, the Mortuary was ridiculously easy (hail the RNG, just two Archviles and a couple of respawned corpses) - I got the AA from the Mortuary but some Arachnotrons ripped it off me before I got to the Phobos Arena. Of course, I was stupid to throw away my spare armour once I found the AA. Thanks to nice defensive traits and the LS I managed to beat Cybie after all. In melee. :) Never even got to fire a shot from that shiny BFG, though. :(

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 DoomRL (v.0.9.8.5) roguelike post-mortem character dump
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 Rabiat, level 8 Imp Sergeant, defeated the Cyberdemon
 on level 25 of the Phobos base.
 He survived 96996 turns and scored 22617 points.
 He was too young to die!

 He killed 329 out of 339 hellspawn. (97%)
 He held his right to remain violent.

 He found the Phobos Arena.
 He stormed the Chained Court.
 He ventured into the Halls of Carnage.
 He fought on Hell's Arena.
 He became a champion of Hell's Arena!
 He witnessed the City of Skulls.
 He faced The Wall.
 He wandered into the Unholy Cathedral.
 He defeated the Angel of Death.
 He was caught in the Mortuary!
 And he managed to clear it!

-- Statistics ------------------------------------------------

  Health 38/80   Experience 28622/8
  ToHit +0  ToDmg Ranged +0  ToDmg Melee +0

-- Traits ----------------------------------------------------

    Ironman        (Level 3)
    Tough as nails (Level 3)
    Badass         (Level 2)

-- Equipment -------------------------------------------------

    [a] [ Armor      ]   nothing
    [b] [ Weapon     ]   Longinus Spear (8d8)
    [c] [ Boots      ]   plasteel boots [8/8] (100%)
    [d] [ Prepared   ]   combat shotgun (6d3) [5/5]

-- Inventory -------------------------------------------------

    [a] fastload rocket launcher (4d4) [1/1]
    [b] advanced BFG 9000 (8d9) [100/100]
    [c] shotgun shell (x50)
    [d] shotgun shell (x50)
    [e] shotgun shell (x50)
    [f] rocket (x10)
    [g] power cell (x50)
    [h] large med-pack
    [i] large med-pack
    [j] thermonuclear bomb
    [k] large med-pack
    [l] large med-pack
    [m] large med-pack
    [n] thermonuclear bomb
    [o] large med-pack
    [p] large med-pack
    [q] large med-pack

-- Kills -----------------------------------------------------

    27 former humans
    29 former sergeants
    6 former captains
    23 imps
    43 demons
    76 lost souls
    23 cacodemons
    2 barons of hell
    1 Cyberdemon
    17 hell knights
    29 arachnotrons
    1 pain elemental
    3 arch-viles

-- History ---------------------------------------------------

 He started his journey on the suface of Phobos.
 On level 2 he battled through the complex.
 On level 3 he battled through a maze of rooms.
 Afterwards he fought on Hell's Arena.
 On level 4 he found hellish caves.
 On level 5 he battled through a maze of rooms.
 On level 6 he found a hellish city.
 He then stormed the Chained Court.
 On level 7 he found a hellish city.
 On level 8 he battled through the complex.
 Afterwards he witnessed the Wall.
 On level 9 he found a hellish city.
 On level 10 he found a hellish city.
 On level 11 he found a hellish city.
 On level 12 he battled through the complex.
 He then ventured into the Halls of Carnage.
 On level 13 he battled through a maze of rooms.
 On level 14 he found hellish caves.
 On level 15 he found a hellish city.
 Then he found the City of Skulls.
 On level 16 he battled through the complex.
 Then he invaded the Unholy Cathedral.
 On level 17 he found hellish caves.
 On level 18 he found hellish caves.
 On level 19 he found a hellish city.
 On level 20 he found a hellish city.
 On level 21 he found hellish caves.
 On level 22 he found hellish caves.
 He was foolish enough to enter the Mortuary!
 On level 23 he found hellish caves.
 On level 24 he found a hellish city.
 Then at last he found the Phobos Arena.
 There he finally defeated the Cyberdemon.

-- General ---------------------------------------------------

 Before him 14 brave souls have ventured into Phobos:
 14 of those were killed.

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[BDR]

Nicely done.. but for a really good melee character you should try AoB and the Brute/Berserk path.

[Rabiat]

Thanks, I'll try that some time. :)

There wasn't a great deal of strategy involved in this game though. On the way to the Phobos Arena it just turned out melee saved my hide more than once. Actually I'm a big fan of shotguns (at least in earlier levels where there's lots of ammo), so I'm eager to try out Shottyman. Right now I'm playing assignments in order of rank requirement, so it may take a while before I get around to it.

Would you happen to know if the number of cave levels (6) in the above game is abnormally high? Or if the number of archviles in the Mortuary (2) is abnormally low, considering the wimpish difficulty level?

[TFoN]

ITYTD always has 2 AVs at the Mortuary, as far as I've ever seen. Higher difflvls have dangerously more.

6 cave levels are quite a lot, but expect this to happen every once in a while. It's not *that* rare :)

[MedO]

Congrats, that's a fast one. I played over 80 games before my first win.

[Rabiat]

Thanks. :) But as TFoN said, easiest difficulty isn't supposed to be that much of a challenge. Perhaps even less so with a history of Dungeon Crawl and ADOM addiction. ;) I did have a try at v.0.9.8 earlier, but I lost interest quickly. What Kornel did to the game by v.0.9.8.5, now there's a different story. I can't believe how much challenge games, rank requirements and cross-death stats add to the enjoyment of the game.

[MedO]

The first RL I came in contact with was probably Nethack, and that one looks so immensely complex that I gave it up completely after a few tries. DoomRL is much easier to get a grip on, so now maybe I can "ascend" to the more complex ones :). I guess I'll give ADOM a try soon.

I can't believe how much challenge games, rank requirements and cross-death stats add to the enjoyment of the game.

0.9.8.5 was the first version I tried, but I always thought what really makes half the game is the music and the sounds. It gives you this great atmosphere. And I never even played the original Doom yet (I know, shame on me), I guess it adds even more for the people who did. But yeah, I really like the challenge games too. Actually a third of the games I played yet were probably AoMr challenges :-)

[BDR]

Linley's Dungeon Crawl.  If you're going to try a more complex rogue-like, go with that one.  Spoilers actually make that game more enjoyable (no storyline to speak of, and there are some things you just plain wouldn't think/know to take advantage of/avoid without them), and don't really make the business of surviving easier.  Plus, there aren't a lot of ways the RNG alone can kill you; most of my TrBe's games ended because I believed too much in their power and/or didn't try hard enough to run once I found myself in over my head.

[Rabiat]

The first RL I came in contact with was probably Nethack, and that one looks so immensely complex that I gave it up completely after a few tries. DoomRL is much easier to get a grip on, so now maybe I can "ascend" to the more complex ones :).

DoomRL reminds me of the original Rogue in its relative simplicity. There's a graphical RL called Lost Labyrinth that's also reasonably simple in design but devilishly hard to play (yet somehow I think LL has no replay value). If you're looking for a more complex RL, I don't think NetHack is the best example. Its controls are terrible, its possibilities are endless and its features are annoyingly eclectic (a Tourist class, sinks in the dungeon, named pets, come on). There's just no focus.

I guess I'll give ADOM a try soon.

You should. :) It takes some time to get comfortable with, but it's one of the most immersive games I've ever played. The same goes for Dungeon Crawl. ADOM has a very complex game world and focuses on fantasy role playing, Crawl is more claustrophobic and focuses on combat, magic, and, well, combat magic. ;) One of the best things about Crawl is that there's a million ways to get into trouble, and a gazillion ways to get out.

0.9.8.5 was the first version I tried, but I always thought what really makes half the game is the music and the sounds. It gives you this great atmosphere. And I never even played the original Doom yet (I know, shame on me), I guess it adds even more for the people who did. But yeah, I really like the challenge games too. Actually a third of the games I played yet were probably AoMr challenges :-)

I'm especially fond of the sound of a shotgun blast followed by a Cacodemon death grunt. :)

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Plus, there aren't a lot of ways the RNG alone can kill you; most of my TrBe's games ended because I believed too much in their power and/or didn't try hard enough to run once I found myself in over my head.

Heh heh, this brings back a lot of painful memories. :) I don't remember how many Troll Fighters/Berserkers I wasted in Crawl, but TrBe's the only combo I ever made it to the Orb with. Once. And didn't even make it back to the surface. :S