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[N!|AoMC|95%|YAFW] Guaranteed DS is easier than you think
Kornel Kisielewicz:
Yeah, just to preserve the tradition I suggest putting the conditions in spoilers when posted :)
Tormuse:
--- Quote from: Sereg on February 08, 2017, 23:59 ---Feels weird to have that out in the open, now...
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It sure does! :o
Well, since we've got Kornel's blessing to talk about the DS now... :)
Spoiler: Dragonslayer stuff (click to show/hide)So, obviously, in this game, I was unable to wield the DS in Unholy Cathedral because I wasn't berserk and had no means of making myself berserk.
Also, a couple of things I've wanted to comment on in other threads for a while:
--- Quote from: Tormuse ---...after I'd calmed down a bit and pulled myself together, I recorded the rest of the game...
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"pulling myself together" was referring to picking up all my stuff I had dropped to make room to unwield and unready all my equipped items to pick up the DS. It was intended as a subtle clue! :D
--- Quote from: Tormuse ---I very nearly screwed up my chance to pick it up due to my own stupidity and had to resort to some cleverness to find another way. (I really wish I could say what it was, but it would be spoilery and Kornel wouldn't like it) ;)
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I had killed all the enemies near the DS, so I was unable to trigger berserk by hitting enemies, so what I did was I pushed a napalm barrel next to the DS and chainsawed it. The explosion made me berserk and I was able to pick it up. :)
Vid-szhite:
I spoiled it for myself by peeking in the source code anyway. It was shockingly simple!
Evilpotatoe:
@MaiZure
--- Quote ---thats not something I can test haha
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Sure you can ! Its more or less what tourist-mode was made for ! Give it a glance, its quite fun.
You can even get my modified version (with super zerk, super headlight...)
That mod is a great tutorial to get some moding bases.
Personally, I found that guaranteed DS mistakenly... and then, did some research to find the condition. It remains a pain to achieve that in real game... even after getting pwnage medal, I failed most my attemps, by mistake or bad luck, which gives me an Apostle count of only 2 (+1 Gutt's heart)
I linked Mortems, if someone is interrested
Edit : Oh, I can haz attachments ? Great !
Since I was quite sure the "mystery" around DS would quickly officially vanish with the source release, I have one question which remains :
How the duck are you supposed to kill Spidey when going for that guaranteed DS ? I don't recall of any guaranteed nuke in 0.9.9.7, and the BFG can't be used with DS in your hands.
Yet, from 2dev's posts... I was quite sure something makes it possible with guaranteed success. (Wouldn't dare to say "no luck involved", yet, since level generation remains :)
@Tormuse : Funny run, but... come on, You can do it without AoMC ! If I managed to clean HA with just SOB/Int2 and SOB3, you can do it too !
Then, just skip MCE and you'll even get zerk for UC. A cake... no lies !
Tormuse:
--- Quote from: Evilpotatoe on February 11, 2017, 04:36 ---Since I was quite sure the "mystery" around DS would quickly officially vanish with the source release, I have one question which remains :
How the duck are you supposed to kill Spidey when going for that guaranteed DS ? I don't recall of any guaranteed nuke in 0.9.9.7, and the BFG can't be used with DS in your hands.
Yet, from 2dev's posts... I was quite sure something makes it possible with guaranteed success. (Wouldn't dare to say "no luck involved", yet, since level generation remains :)
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Yeah, this question was raised a while ago and never answered. I'm still curious about that myself. Does someone who has gone through the source code know how to get a guaranteed nuke besides the (unusable in this case) Nuclear BFG?
--- Quote from: Evilpotatoe on February 11, 2017, 04:36 ---@Tormuse : Funny run, but... come on, You can do it without AoMC ! If I managed to clean HA with just SOB/Int2 and SOB3, you can do it too !
Then, just skip MCE and you'll even get zerk for UC. A cake... no lies !
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Uh huh... I'm sure I *can* do it, but I wouldn't say it's easy. Believe it or not, I really am not that good at avoiding damage. You see that mortem up there where I took 191 damage? Yeah, that was supposed to be under 50; it was my best attempt and I wasn't even close. :P (And if you want more examples, I've got a whole Youtube channel full of them; I take lots of damage all the time!) :D
Nice Portal reference, though. ;)
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