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The Journey to 100%
Sereg:
Am I correct in assuming Dervis is the other of your unachieved medals?
If so, you might consider going for your Centurial Angelic. Since you have achieved the maximum number of Diamond badges that can affect your skill rank, there's no point trying to do Centurial Diamond separately.
As far as that goes, congratulations on surpassing me. Only 2 confirmed players to go, and after that, VANDAM... by the way, if you pull off Centurial Angelic, you'll be a step ahead of him in a sense, because that was the only Angelic he didn't claim to have earned.
I have no advice for Thomas, however... I never had much luck with AoHu or conqueror, so combining them is definitely not my area of expertise.
Icy:
Dervis is the other missing medal, yes. You can click the image in my signature for full details of what I need to get.
While true that Centurial Angelic covers for that and Centurial Diamond, I'd argue the difference in difficulty is significant enough to warrant doing them separately, so that I can enjoy having earned the easier rewards earlier.
Also, I believe VANDAM did achieve Centurial Angelic, according to his signature.
Day 55:
I tried some more for Angel of Humanity as a conqueror, and had a really sick start by the end of floor 2:
Spoiler (click to show/hide)
Unfortunately, with a single misclick, I got killed, lol. :(
Spoiler (click to show/hide)
Boo. After that, I tried some more of beating Nightmare under 20 minutes, but still no luck there.
Afterwards, I starting looking into the coding some more and I'm quite confident in saying I believe I've made a new discovery!
--- Code: ---OnMortem = function ()
if player:has_won() then
player:add_badge("everyman3")
if statistics.bonus_levels_completed == statistics.bonus_levels_count then
player:add_badge("everyman4")
player:add_medal("thomas")
if DIFFICULTY >= DIFF_VERYHARD then
player:add_badge("everyman5")
end
end
if DIFFICULTY >= DIFF_NIGHTMARE and ARCHANGEL then
player:add_badge("everyman6")
end
end
end,
--- End code ---
It seems that the game only checks if your bonus levels completed and count are equal, instead of checking if you're actually a conqueror! This means that if you were to play Humanity + Confidence / Overconfidence / 100, you won't get the reward for being a conqueror, but the game will still give you Thomas's Medal and Elite Platinum Badge! Seems that it's a very similar oversight to the Max Carnage + Overconfidence trick for the Destroyer Badges.
This trick will also work for Everyman Diamond Badge if it works for the others!
Here's some other chunks of code that would usually avoid this error:
--- Code: ----- elite badges
if DIFFICULTY >= DIFF_VERYHARD and is_conqueror then player:add_badge("elite4") end
if DIFFICULTY >= DIFF_NIGHTMARE then
if is_90kills then player:add_badge("elite5") end
if is_maxkills and is_conqueror then player:add_badge("elite6") end
end
--- End code ---
--- Code: ---register_challenge "challenge_aocn"
{
name = "Angel of Confidence",
description = "Are three episodes too much of a grind? Try beating the game in just two! Having seen the destruction of Phobos beforehand, you asked to be dropped off at the Deimos base to save yourself the trouble. At least they were nice enough to give you some more gear.",
rating = "VERY HARD",
rank = 4,
abbr = "AoCn",
let = "N",
removemedals = { "icarus1", "icarus2", "explorer", "conqueror", "competn1", "competn2", "competn3", "untouchable1", "untouchable2", "untouchable3" },
--- End code ---
--- Code: ---register_challenge "challenge_aooc"
{
name = "Angel of Overconfidence",
description = "Not three episodes, not even two: now we're down to a single count! You were so ready to face the legions of Hell that you were sent directly to their home turf. Good thing you snuck some extra supplies!",
-- In memory of our best abuser of AoOC
rating = "SEREG",
rank = 6,
abbr = "AoOC",
let = "V",
removemedals = { "icarus1", "icarus2", "explorer", "conqueror", "competn1", "competn2", "competn3", "untouchable1", "untouchable2", "untouchable3" },
--- End code ---
--- Code: ---register_challenge "challenge_a100"
{
name = "Angel of 100",
description = "100 levels, and you win. No Cybie, no Spidey, no JC, no special levels, just 100 normal levels. And yes, there are more and more enemies after level 25...",
rating = "HARD",
rank = 5,
abbr = "A100",
let = "O",
removemedals = { "gambler", "aurora", "explorer", "conqueror", "fallout1", "fallout2", "fallout3", "ironskull1" },
--- End code ---
Now, Confidence and Overconfidence with Humanity, while in theory should give Thomas's Medal, are still very difficult, if not more difficult because you won't have the Arena Master's Staff for The Vaults. It could potentially be done on Ultra-Violence with use of Azrael's Scythe since you can use it indefinitely as far as max health is concerned, but then the Angel of Death is an issue.
So instead, I'm genuinely considering going for Angel of Humanity + Angel of 100 for Thomas's Medal and Everyman Platinum Badge! While it's a ton of floors, they're all just normal floors, of which I can skip through, don't need to kill everything, etc. No more having to deal with Deimos Lab or Mortuary or Abyssal Plains or any of those! :P When I did my Ultra-Violence 100% kill Angel of 100 awhile back, I would go through dozens of floors before ever getting touched, and now that I'm significantly better at the game and would be playing on Hey, Not Too Rough, I honestly think I can do it! Plus, it would be an amazing proof of concept! I searched through the mortems, and there isn't a single Angel of Humanity + Angel of 100 in there, which might be why this wasn't discovered.
It's still possible there's some sort of code preventing this trick, but I can't find such a thing and I'm ~99% sure it does actually work. If anyone can confirm if it does or doesn't, please share!
Sereg:
Ah, I see... hadn't noticed his updated signature until I went looking just now.
Still, it was the only one missing from his original profile of 16/17, so there's that.
Thanks for the mention in your proposed AoOC code, by the way ;)
And now for the fateful words - if you manage to earn Thomas' Medal on Ao100, I will be very impressed. (shh, don't let Tormuse overhear >.> <.< >.>)
Icy:
I think you misunderstood, Sereg; that's the actual code in the game. I was pointing out that with how it's structured it prevents the conqueror trick for other challenges.
Day 56:
With my new strategy idea, I've been trying Angel of Humanity mixed with Angel of 100 for Thomas's Medal and Everyman Platinum Badge. I'm still close to certain it works, but there's still the obstacle of actually doing the challenge, and it's quite hard.
So far on all of my runs, I've been instakilled by something. It's pretty insane actually how safe I have to be playing. Letting up defense just for one moment against just one enemy kills the run. I have to really respect the danger and assume the worst scenario with every decision. I'm also thinking that Cerberus Boots are going to be almost essential since fluid damage is massive and there are cases where I can't get around dealing with it. I'd rather not have to always be carrying an Envirosuit, so I'll definitely need those boots, or at the very least, Enviroboots.
After dying there a few times, I tried some more of beating a standard Nightmare game in under 20 minutes. On my first attempt of the night, I had some luck in Deimos with an early Invulnerability, got through some floors, found a few Homing Phase Devices, and just before fighting the Cyberdemon, there was an Invulnerability that was literally adjacent to the stairs! I also switched off from choosing Dodgemaster as my fifth trait for Brute to massively increase my melee damage (mostly due to the accuracy buff). I destroyed the Cyberdemon and reached Hell for the first time in awhile. From there, I finally got the stacked Invulnerability needed to get through in a reasonable amount of time, and then for the last touch of good luck, had another double Invulnerability on the last floor before Dis!
Spoiler (click to show/hide)--------------------------------------------------------------
DoomRL (0.9.9.7) roguelike post-mortem character dump
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drthtrd, level 6 Apostle Chaos Colonel Scout,
defeated the Mastermind at the City of Dis.
He survived 11933 turns and scored 211152 points.
He played for 12 minutes and 16 seconds.
He opposed the Nightmare!
He killed 234 out of 1053 hellspawn. (22%)
Who gave him the ticket to Hell, anyway?
-- Special levels --------------------------------------------
Levels generated : 11
Levels visited : 5
Levels completed : 0
-- Awards ----------------------------------------------------
Cyberdemon's Head
Mastermind's Brain
Major Icarus Cross
Compet-n Gold Cross
Untouchable Badge
UAC Platinum Badge
UAC Diamond Badge
-- Graveyard -------------------------------------------------
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-- Statistics ------------------------------------------------
Health 50/50 Experience 14310/6
ToHit Ranged +0 ToHit Melee +2 ToDmg Ranged +0 ToDmg Melee +3
-- Traits ----------------------------------------------------
Class : Scout
Hellrunner (Level 2)
Brute (Level 1)
Dodgemaster (Level 1)
Intuition (Level 2)
Int->Int->HR->HR->Bru->DM->
-- Equipment -------------------------------------------------
[a] [ Armor ] red armor [2/4] (27%)
[b] [ Weapon ] chainsaw (4d6)
[c] [ Boots ] protective boots [2/2] (94%) (A)
[d] [ Prepared ] shell box (x13)
-- Inventory -------------------------------------------------
[a] combat shotgun (7d3) [0/5]
[b] shotgun shell (x50)
[c] shotgun shell (x35)
[d] shotgun shell (x50)
[e] shotgun shell (x50)
[f] shotgun shell (x50)
[g] shotgun shell (x50)
[h] shotgun shell (x50)
[i] shotgun shell (x50)
[j] shotgun shell (x50)
[k] large med-pack
[l] large med-pack
[m] large med-pack
[n] large med-pack
[o] large med-pack
[p] large med-pack
[q] bulk mod pack
-- Resistances -----------------------------------------------
Acid - internal 0% torso 0% feet 25%
Fire - internal 0% torso 12% feet 0%
-- Kills -----------------------------------------------------
57 former humans
48 former sergeants
19 former captains
50 imps
5 demons
32 lost souls
4 cacodemons
7 hell knights
5 former commandos
3 pain elementals
1 mancubus
1 arch-vile
1 Cyberdemon
1 Spider Mastermind
-- History ---------------------------------------------------
He started his journey on the surface of Phobos.
On level 5 he stormed the Chained Court.
On level 8 he encountered the Phobos Anomaly.
He left level 9 as soon as possible.
On level 12 he found the City of Skulls.
He fled the City in terror!
Level 15 was a hard nut to crack!
On level 16 he found the Tower of Babel!
He left level 17 as soon as possible.
On level 17 he invaded the Unholy Cathedral!
He fled the Unholy Cathedral seeing no chance to win.
He left level 18 as soon as possible.
On level 19 he entered the Vaults.
He came, he saw, but he left.
On level 21 he stumbled into a nightmare demon cave!
He left level 21 as soon as possible.
He left level 22 as soon as possible.
On level 22 he entered the Lava Pits.
He decided it was too hot there.
He left level 23 as soon as possible.
Then at last he found Dis!
On level 24 he finally defeated the Mastermind.
-- Messages --------------------------------------------------
hit! You are hit! You are hit!
You miss the Spider Mastermind. You are hit! You are hit! You are hit! You
are hit! You are hit! You are hit! You are hit! You are hit! You are hit! You
are hit! You are hit! You are hit!
You hit the Spider Mastermind. You are hit! You are hit! You are hit! You are
hit! You are hit! You are hit!
You hit the Spider Mastermind. You are hit! You are hit! You are hit! You are
hit! You are hit! You are hit!
You hit the Spider Mastermind. The Spider Mastermind hits you. The Spider
Mastermind hits you.
You hit the Spider Mastermind. You are hit! You are hit! You are hit! You are
hit! You are hit! You are hit!
You hit the Spider Mastermind. You are hit! You are hit! You are hit! You are
hit! You are hit! You are hit!
You hit the Spider Mastermind. The Spider Mastermind dies. Congratulations!
You defeated the Spider Mastermind! Press <Enter>...
-- General ---------------------------------------------------
2116 brave souls have ventured into Phobos:
1692 of those were killed.
5 of those were killed by something unknown.
53 didn't read the thermonuclear bomb manual.
And 222 couldn't handle the stress and committed a stupid suicide.
144 souls destroyed the Mastermind...
14 sacrificed itself for the good of mankind.
126 killed the bitch and survived.
4 showed that it can outsmart Hell itself.
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--- End code ---
It was very relieving to finally get these badges! On top, I finished with a pretty good 12:16, though it's sadly still so far away from the angelic badge. Besides Speedunner Angelic Badge, I now have all the real-time badges and medals, which is nice so that I can actually play at my preferred pace.
Since I was speedrunning, I didn't take much for screenshots, but I did snap this ending here since I noticed the swag experience level of 6/66%! ;)
Spoiler (click to show/hide)
Happy to get some progress, especially since it came unexpectedly while I was just rotating challenges. I'm going to try some more for Humanity, but I'm beginning to think that despite how cool it would be and how simplified playing is, that I might not do Angel of 100 after all. I might try some stairdiving next time and see how that goes.
Tormuse:
Very interesting build choice for the UAC Diamond game! I'm impressed! :o I always thought melee builds are the way to go for that challenge, since it eliminates a lot of button presses and saves time.
--- Quote from: Sereg on October 31, 2017, 18:08 ---Am I correct in assuming Dervis is the other of your unachieved medals?
If so, you might consider going for your Centurial Angelic...
--- End quote ---
Good idea, but unfortunately, ArchAo666 blocks Dervis' Medallion. (I haven't read the code, but I didn't get it with my Centurial Angelic game)
--- Quote from: Sereg on November 01, 2017, 05:48 ---Thanks for the mention in your proposed AoOC code, by the way ;)
--- End quote ---
Oh, did Icy add the "SEREG" in there? That explains it. :P (I was wondering if he was reading from code for a future version of the game or something) In any case, it's very fitting! :D
--- Quote from: Sereg on November 01, 2017, 05:48 ---And now for the fateful words - if you manage to earn Thomas' Medal on Ao100, I will be very impressed. (shh, don't let Tormuse overhear >.> <.< >.>)
--- End quote ---
Oh, don't say that! I'll feel compelled to do the same thing, but at UV difficulty! :D (Just kidding... or am I?) :P
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