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[M|Ao100|YAMM]
« on: October 09, 2017, 18:54 »

First full Ao100 Win.

After I got MB working and Wk at rank 2 the rest of the challenge was pretty much over. I found what I needed to make the Cerberus Boots early and some mods to make Chainswords Bulk mod that I just started to main them, the real big thing was finding a Nano mod early enough to make Nano-fiber skin armor and later adding that Power for more protection.

Eventually I lucked out and found the Butchers Cleaver and that really helped my murder spree, I could just start running to things without the knock-back screwing me nearly as hard. Honestly though when I made my swords and fiber armor the challenge was effectively over not much was really damaging me excepting packs of Mancubi and even then they only damaged me because I couldn't get close enough to kill them and then I still had an inventory nearly stuffed with Large Medkits.

There's something just funny about tanking enough Mancubi rockets to make it kill itself and barely have a scratch on me. My only regret was not finding the Dragonslayer and having permanent berserk, at that point I would be effectively immortal with near 95 percent resistances, tho I'm eventaully gonna try for the A0666 to see if I can ever get my MB Techie that berserk just for lol's.

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 DoomRL (0.9.9.7) roguelike post-mortem character dump
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 Leon, level 21 Cacodemon Sergeant Major Technician,
 completed 100 levels of torture on level 100 of Hell.
 He survived 218020 turns and scored 723568 points.
 He played for 2 hours, 29 minutes and 48 seconds.
 He didn't like it too rough.

 He killed 1776 out of 1776 hellspawn. (100%)
 This ass-kicking marine killed all of them!
 He was an Angel of 100!

-- Special levels --------------------------------------------

  Levels generated : 0
  Levels visited   : 0
  Levels completed : 0

-- Awards ----------------------------------------------------

  Medal of Prejudice
  Experience Medal
  Armorer Silver Badge
  Heroic Bronze Badge
  Centurial Bronze Badge
  Centurial Silver Badge
  Centurial Gold Badge

-- Graveyard -------------------------------------------------

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  ###########################################################

-- Statistics ------------------------------------------------

  Health 105/100   Experience 465372/21
  ToHit Ranged +0  ToHit Melee +10  ToDmg Ranged +1  ToDmg Melee +16

-- Traits ----------------------------------------------------

  Class : Technician

    Ironman          (Level 5)
    Finesse          (Level 3)
    Hellrunner       (Level 3)
    Son of a bitch   (Level 1)
    Brute            (Level 5)
    Dodgemaster      (Level 1)
    Whizkid          (Level 2)
    Malicious Blades (Level 1)

  HR->HR->DM->Fin->Bru->Bru->MMB->WK->WK->Iro->Bru->Bru->Bru->Iro->Iro->Iro->Iro->HR->Fin->Fin->SoB->

-- Equipment -------------------------------------------------

    [a] [ Armor      ]   nanoskin blue armor [4/4] (100%) (P)
    [b] [ Weapon     ]   Butcher's Cleaver (5d6)
    [c] [ Boots      ]   cerberus steel boots [0/0] (100%) (A)
    [d] [ Prepared   ]   chainsword (9d2) (B)

-- Inventory -------------------------------------------------

    [a] plasmatic super shotgun (9d4)x2 [2/2] (P1)
    [b] BFG 9000 (10d6) [100/100]
    [c] chainsword (9d2) (B)
    [d] shotgun shell (x50)
    [e] large med-pack
    [f] large med-pack
    [g] large med-pack
    [h] large med-pack
    [i] large med-pack
    [j] large med-pack
    [k] large med-pack
    [l] large med-pack
    [m] large med-pack
    [n] large med-pack
    [o] large med-pack
    [p] large med-pack
    [q] large med-pack
    [r] large med-pack
    [s] large med-pack
    [t] blood skull
    [u] hatred skull
    [v] Hell Staff

-- Resistances -----------------------------------------------

    Bullet     - internal 0%    torso 75%   feet 50% 
    Melee      - internal 0%    torso 95%   feet 75% 
    Shrapnel   - internal 0%    torso 75%   feet 50% 
    Acid       - internal 0%    torso 25%   feet 100%
    Fire       - internal 0%    torso 75%   feet 100%
    Plasma     - internal 0%    torso 45%   feet 0%   

-- Kills -----------------------------------------------------

    113 former humans
    152 former sergeants
    154 former captains
    98 imps
    26 demons
    164 lost souls
    82 cacodemons
    69 hell knights
    210 barons of hell
    107 arachnotrons
    8 former commandos
    13 pain elementals
    80 revenants
    132 mancubi
    184 arch-viles
    35 nightmare imps
    40 nightmare cacodemons
    28 nightmare demons
    35 nightmare arachnotrons
    3 nightmare arch-viles
    5 elite former humans
    4 elite former sergeants
    2 elite former captains
    1 elite former commando
    23 bruiser brothers
    3 shamblers
    1 lava elemental
    2 agony elementals
    2 Cyberdemons

-- History ---------------------------------------------------

  On level 10 he assembled a tactical shotgun!
  Level 11 was a hard nut to crack!
  On level 17 he found the Anti-Freak Jackal!
  On level 18 he found the Medical Powerarmor!
  On level 20 he assembled a chainsword!
  On level 22 he assembled a cerberus boots!
  On level 22 he assembled a chainsword!
  On level 22 he assembled a nanofiber skin armor!
  On level 28 he found the Acid Spitter!
  On level 29 he stumbled into a complex full of mancubi!
  On level 29 he assembled a chainsword!
  On level 30 he encountered an armed nuke!
  Level 32 was a hard nut to crack!
  On level 32 he found the Necroarmor!
  He flooded the entire level 35 with lava!
  Level 38 was a hard nut to crack!
  On level 45, hell froze over!
  On level 47 he found the Subtle Knife!
  On level 48 he found the Hell Staff!
  On level 49 he assembled a plasmatic shrapnel!
  On level 50 he found the Mjollnir!
  On level 52 he stumbled into a nightmare arachnotron cave!
  On level 54 he stumbled into a complex full of arch-viles!
  On level 55 he ran for his life from acid!
  On level 56 he stumbled into a complex full of arch-viles!
  He sounded the alarm on level 56!
  On level 58 he was bombarded!
  Level 62 blasted him with an unholy atmosphere!
  On level 65 he found the Butcher's Cleaver!
  On level 66 he found the Enviroboots!
  On level 69 he was bombarded!
  On level 69 he found the Lava Armor!
  On level 70 he stumbled into a nightmare arachnotron cave!
  On level 71 he stumbled into a complex full of arch-viles!
  On level 72, hell froze over!
  On level 80 he found the Mega Buster!
  Level 86 was a hard nut to crack!
  On level 87 he stumbled into a complex full of arch-viles!
  On level 87, hell froze over!
  Level 97 was a hard nut to crack!
  On level 98 he stumbled into a nightmare cacodemon cave!
  Level 99 was a hard nut to crack!
  On level 100 he finally completed 100 levels of torture.

-- Messages --------------------------------------------------

 You hit the lost soul. The lost soul dies. Next!
 There is a Small Health Globe lying here.
 You feel better.
 There is shotgun shell (x8) lying here.
 There are stairs leading downward here.
 The lost soul hits you.
 You hit the lost soul. The lost soul dies. Next!
 You hit the lost soul. The lost soul dies. You feel relatively safe now.
 Next!
 There is a Large Health Globe lying here.
 You feel like new!
 There are stairs leading downward here.
 You did it! You completed 100 levels of DoomRL! You're the champion! Press
 <Enter>...

-- General ---------------------------------------------------

 15 brave souls have ventured into Phobos:
 11 of those were killed.
 And 1 couldn't handle the stress and committed a stupid suicide.

 3 souls destroyed the Mastermind...
 1 killed the bitch and survived.
 2 showed that it can outsmart Hell itself.

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« Last Edit: October 09, 2017, 18:56 by TheInsanity556 »
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Re: [M|Ao100|YAMM]
« Reply #1 on: October 09, 2017, 23:23 »

Welcome to the forum, and congratulations! I personally never understood the appeal of MMB, although the idea of not having to depend on berserk kicking in to be protected doesn't sound half bad. Guess I just didn't read through the description closely enough. Why didn't you go for P-modded chainswords though? Would have gone from 8D2 to 8D3 instead of 9D2. Bigger spread, but a better average damage... (I have to admit I had to look up B and P mod effects to be sure myself)
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Re: [M|Ao100|YAMM]
« Reply #2 on: October 10, 2017, 01:45 »

Hey, welcome to the forums!  :D  Yeah, Malicious Blades with the Butcher's Cleaver is a fantastic combination, as I've demonstrated once before.  :D  And it's funny that you mention playing a MMB game with DS, because it just so happens that I'm in the middle of just such a game!  :o  (To be posted if I ever finish it; ArchAo666 takes forever!)  :|

I personally never understood the appeal of MMB...

It lets you run right up to your enemies, dodging most of the incoming fire and protects you from a majority of their already weak melee attacks.  It's difficult to get started, but quite powerful if you use it properly.
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Re: [M|Ao100|YAMM]
« Reply #3 on: October 10, 2017, 02:14 »

It lets you run right up to your enemies, dodging most of the incoming fire and protects you from a majority of their already weak melee attacks.  It's difficult to get started, but quite powerful if you use it properly.

Yeah I'm starting to see the beauty here...
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Re: [M|Ao100|YAMM]
« Reply #4 on: October 10, 2017, 02:25 »

Welcome to the forum, and congratulations! I personally never understood the appeal of MMB, although the idea of not having to depend on berserk kicking in to be protected doesn't sound half bad. Guess I just didn't read through the description closely enough. Why didn't you go for P-modded chainswords though? Would have gone from 8D2 to 8D3 instead of 9D2. Bigger spread, but a better average damage... (I have to admit I had to look up B and P mod effects to be sure myself)

I read the wiki about how its more effective to use a Bulk mod on a Chainsaw on average vs a Power mod and assumed it was the same for things chainswords without thinking why it works for the chainsaw.

As for MMB the thing is that to me its a really defensive Master Trait. Sure you have that double swing for extra damage if using knives but the permanent resistances allow me to just tank everything and laugh and laugh as shit tries to kill me and just does nothing and the Dodgemaster means that I can just sidestep my way closer to anything that doesn't do high knock back. With the right armor like a good Cerberus armor with Onyx mod or better nano-fiber armor you can pretty much tank anything with a knife because of those resistances and that means that unless I get screwed with the drops of med kits or healing globes I can't die at all. Like to illustrate how immortal I was this run I killed two different Mancubi by repeatedly getting close enough to it to have its own missiles damage it an kill it. It works best on the longer runs like the Ao100 and Ao666 because eventually you will get the mods you need to make what you want on your techie and this trait makes sure that you survive till you can get your full power on.
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Re: [M|Ao100|YAMM]
« Reply #5 on: October 10, 2017, 02:44 »

I'm almost tempted to change my plans for Ao666 from MSs to MMB... :S
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Re: [M|Ao100|YAMM]
« Reply #6 on: October 10, 2017, 05:47 »

I'm almost tempted to change my plans for Ao666 from MSs to MMB... :S

Yes. Do this.  My last AAo666 started as an MSs attempt.  It ended heavy melee and giant bfgs, because I had to shoot 25 times with even a powerful modded pistol assembly to kill a former human.

Welcome, OP. Nice inaugural run... Ao100s are always interesting to see.  Congratulations on the win,  and good luck on your next challenge.
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Re: [M|Ao100|YAMM]
« Reply #7 on: October 10, 2017, 05:48 »

I'm almost tempted to change my plans for Ao666 from MSs to MMB... :S

Just be aware that you'll need an alternate way to kill dudes till you've got your defenses up to par, a good Cerberus armour with Onyx or an armour or two to last you between armour shards or just a really good armour to beef up your energy resistances, ie fire, acid, and plasma. Once your defences are up to snuff then you can focus on just using melee two chainswords with the Bulk or better yet a spare power mod will start killing things well. You'll still want more and more brute ranks till you're killing things at a good clip or put off pure melee till all your defensive traits are online line more Ironman for more health or Hellrunner for more speed.  At some point you should start to get to the point where the only difficult part of killing a good chunk of enemies is reaching them and you should have a nice stash of large med kits, at that point its all about making sure to heal when you feel you should and making sure you remain above about %20 health.
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Re: [M|Ao100|YAMM]
« Reply #8 on: October 10, 2017, 06:27 »

Not being restricted to melee weapons means you can offset the lack of resistances with a good offense: on HNTR, even just using shotguns should get you through the first levels easily enough. You'll just have to wait before you start relying on melee tactics.
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Re: [M|Ao100|YAMM]
« Reply #9 on: October 10, 2017, 10:44 »

I read the wiki about how its more effective to use a Bulk mod on a Chainsaw on average vs a Power mod and assumed it was the same for things chainswords without thinking why it works for the chainsaw.

Chainsword: 8d2, Chainsaw: 4d6.  For melee weapons, bulk mods boost the first number (number of dice) and power mods boost the second number.  (Number of sides on the dice)  It gives you a better range of damage if you boost the smaller number, so power mods are good for the Chainsword and bulk mods are good for the Chainsaw.  I hope this makes sense.
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Re: [M|Ao100|YAMM]
« Reply #10 on: October 13, 2017, 05:22 »

My only regret was not finding the Dragonslayer and having permanent berserk, at that point I would be effectively immortal with near 95 percent resistances, tho I'm eventaully gonna try for the A0666 to see if I can ever get my MB Techie that berserk just for lol's.

This one just hit me: how did you plan on wielding DS if and when you finally found it?
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Re: [M|Ao100|YAMM]
« Reply #11 on: October 13, 2017, 08:28 »

Easy.
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Re: [M|Ao100|YAMM]
« Reply #12 on: October 13, 2017, 08:41 »

D'oh. Totally slipped my mind.
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