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[MedO]

My first win without the Intuition path. Trait order was SoG->SoG->SoG->DG->DG->Fin->DG->Fin, so I was only building for speed with my two guns. I chose the Dualgunner path to preserve ammo and thus inventory space. As always, I went into the Halls of Carnage for my BFG, I'd only enter the City of Skulls again with a good Shotgun and the traits to go with it. Toward the end, there were three caves in a row, which almost got me killed, but I was able to recover in the following level, which luckily held a lot of medkits. I rushed through the last levels, mostly just finding and taking the stairs whenever I heard a Vile, though I still had to stock up on Power Cells a bit for the Phobos Arena. When I got there, I started back against the wall, with Cybie already in my LoS, so I gained some time on him. I had enough ammo to give him four BFG blasts and kill him, and got hit only once.

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 DoomRL (v.0.9.8.5) roguelike post-mortem character dump
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 Adam Ring, level 8 Cacodemon Lieutenant, defeated the Cyberdemon
 on level 25 of the Phobos base.
 He survived 100082 turns and scored 38586 points.
 He didn't like it too rough.

 He killed 337 out of 379 hellspawn. (89%)
 He was an Angel of Light Travel!

 He found the Phobos Arena.
 He stormed the Chained Court.
 He ventured into the Halls of Carnage.
 He found the Hell's Armory.
 He fought on Hell's Arena.
 He became a champion of Hell's Arena!

-- Statistics ------------------------------------------------

  Health 49/50   Experience 23327/8
  ToHit +0  ToDmg Ranged +0  ToDmg Melee +0

-- Traits ----------------------------------------------------

    Finesse        (Level 2)
    Son of a gun   (Level 3)
    Dualgunner     (Level 3)

-- Equipment -------------------------------------------------

    [a] [ Armor      ]   red armor [1/4] (11%)
    [b] [ Weapon     ]   BFG 9000 (8d8) [20/100]
    [c] [ Boots      ]   plasteel boots [8/8] (100%)
    [d] [ Prepared   ]   pistol (2d4) [6/6]

-- Inventory -------------------------------------------------

    [a] pistol (2d4) [6/6]
    [b] 10mm ammo (x100)
    [c] power cell (x10)
    [d] power cell (x50)
    [e] large med-pack
    [f] large med-pack
    [g] phase device
    [h] large med-pack

-- Kills -----------------------------------------------------

    43 former humans
    40 former sergeants
    24 former captains
    33 imps
    41 demons
    38 lost souls
    40 cacodemons
    3 barons of hell
    1 Cyberdemon
    6 hell knights
    10 arachnotrons
    6 former commandos
    6 pain elementals
    1 arch-vile

-- History ---------------------------------------------------

 He started his journey on the suface of Phobos.
 On level 2 he battled through the complex.
 On level 3 he battled through the complex.
 Afterwards he fought on Hell's Arena.
 On level 4 he battled through the complex.
 On level 5 he battled through the complex.
 He then stormed the Chained Court.
 On level 6 he battled through the complex.
 On level 7 he found a hellish city.
 On level 8 he battled through the complex.
 On level 9 he battled through the complex.
 On level 10 he battled through the complex.
 He then found Hell's Armory.
 On level 11 he battled through the complex.
 On level 12 he battled through the complex.
 On level 13 he battled through the complex.
 He then ventured into the Halls of Carnage.
 On level 14 he battled through the complex.
 On level 15 he found hellish caves.
 On level 16 he found hellish caves.
 On level 17 he found hellish caves.
 On level 18 he battled through a maze of rooms.
 On level 19 he found a hellish city.
 On level 20 he found a hellish city.
 On level 21 he battled through the complex.
 On level 22 he found a hellish city.
 On level 23 he battled through the complex.
 On level 24 he found a hellish city.
 Then at last he found the Phobos Arena.
 There he finally defeated the Cyberdemon.

-- General ---------------------------------------------------

 Before him 140 brave souls have ventured into Phobos:
 131 of those were killed.
 2 of those were killed by something unknown.
 1 didn't read the thermonuclear bomb manual.
 And 4 couldn't handle the stress and commited a stupid suicide.

 Some rumours though, say that the Cyberdemon was killed already!
 Is he immortal? 2 souls claim to have killed him...
 2 killed the bastard and survived.

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[Firstblood]

Very nice win and congrats on Captain :)


 Did you notice the +2 damage bonus per SoaG when you go SoaG in 0.9.8.5? I've played a lot of SoaG games but I never notice any difference in damage (e.g. former humans still take 2-3 hits with SoaG level 3, Cacodemons take on average 9 hits in my experience with a 2d5 pistol and SoaG 3 and I'm trying to work out how many they take with SoaG 0 and a 2d4), whereas I always notice the fire rate increase. Its probably the same for SoB, but I haven't played as many SoB games.

I've been thinking about this, in preparation for my AoMr attempt when I become a Captain too, and because I've been thinking of using pistols during my AoI challenge.



Something else I just calculated in my head:

4.5 dmg * 9 hits=40.5
4.5 is the approx. average of 2d5-1, (assume there are 2 results of 1 dmg out of 10)

If a Cacodemon has 40 hp, and 1 armor, this shows it takes on average 9 hits to kill with a
damage of 2d5-1. Which is the result I get with SoaG 3 when I'm playing. So I don't seem to get the +6 damage bonus. Another thing.. this is always in Aggressive mode. So I don't seem to get an Aggressive damage multiplier either. Also, bleeding damage takes effect as well, but by the looks of it, the short term effect of bleeding is minor, but even so, thats another plus to the damage and yet it still takes 9 hits.

2d5-1 (1,1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9) ... 46/10 = 4.6
so actually

4.6 avg dmg * 9 hits=41.4
which is still close to the supposed value of a Cacodemon's hp and armor.


(I did some more thinking, and I don't know why there are 2 values of 1. When it should be (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9) and an average of 5. But if the average was 5, it would take on average 8 hits to kill and not 9, and I would be killing Cacodemons in 7 hits sometimes, which has never happened, but 8-10 hits has.)


Just wondering if anyone else has similar experience or if its just me. I'm still probably going to use pistols for ammo conservation in my AoI challenge, and I know they're not meant to be easy or anything, just my observations of how pistols seem to work :)


I think the best test would be to kill the Cyberdemon using only a single 2d4 pistol. If I'm right I'm expecting it to take a bit more than 100 bullets, with an average damage of just under 2 per bullet. Thats roughly at least 40 (40,000 energy) turns of pure shooting and reloading with 2 levels of Finesse and 3 levels of SoaG. And attempted during AoI, that means someone would have to survive 40 turns plus turns for dodging against CD without medkits. Ouch..