Quick questions thread!

[AlterAsc]

@Equality
He already stated that he has plasma shotgun to gib corpses and to destroy walls.
If he starts using plasmatic shrapnel assembly every time he tries to cornershoot he will screw his cover. And that's never desirable.
While having plasma shotgun making plasmatic shotgun on MAD build is probably the best way to waste resources while also trying to kill yourself.

[grommile]

Why does Berserker Gold only require HMP, given that AoB is easier than both (a) AoMr and (b) a standard game using only knives and fists?

[Flame_US3r]

@Equality
He already stated that he has plasma shotgun to gib corpses and to destroy walls.
If he starts using plasmatic shrapnel assembly every time he tries to cornershoot he will screw his cover. And that's never desirable.
While having plasma shotgun making plasmatic shotgun on MAD build is probably the best way to waste resources while also trying to kill yourself.

And that's exactly why I decided to just Pmod my newly found super shotgun and hang on to the sniper mod just in case I ran out of shells. Easy win. I'm going to be playing on HMP+ from now on methinks.

Spoiler

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 DoomRL (0.9.9.7) roguelike post-mortem character dump
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 Thomas Parasiuk,
 level 10 Demon Sergeant Marine,
 defeated the Mastermind at the City of Dis.
 He survived 75868 turns and scored 81219 points.
 He played for 5 hours, 10 minutes and 54 seconds.
 He didn't like it too rough.

 He killed 439 out of 447 hellspawn. (98%)
 He held his right to remain violent.
 He was an Angel of Shotgunnery!
 He was also an Angel of Confidence!

 He saved himself 2 times.

-- Special levels --------------------------------------------

  Levels generated : 8
  Levels visited   : 5
  Levels completed : 4

-- Awards ----------------------------------------------------

  UAC Star (bronze cluster)
  UAC Star (silver cluster)
  Hell Armorer Badge
  Heroic Bronze Badge
  Shottyman Bronze Badge
  Shottyman Silver Badge
  Daredevil Bronze Badge
  Daredevil Silver Badge
  Arachno Bronze Badge

-- Graveyard -------------------------------------------------

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-- Statistics ------------------------------------------------

  Health 58/80   Experience 44650/10
  ToHit Ranged +0  ToHit Melee +0  ToDmg Ranged +0  ToDmg Melee +0

-- Traits ----------------------------------------------------

  Class : Marine

    Ironman          (Level 2)
    Tough as nails   (Level 2)
    Reloader         (Level 2)
    Badass           (Level 2)
    Shottyman        (Level 1)
    Army of the Dead (Level 1)

  Rel->Rel->SM->TaN->Bad->MAD->TaN->Bad->Iro->Iro->

-- Equipment -------------------------------------------------

    [a] [ Armor      ]   red armor [6/6] (82%) (P)
    [b] [ Weapon     ]   super shotgun (9d4)x2 [0/2] (P1)
    [c] [ Boots      ]   plasteel boots [2/2] (94%)
    [d] [ Prepared   ]   shell box (x86)

-- Inventory -------------------------------------------------

    [a] elephant gun (12d3) [1/1]
    [b] plasma shotgun (7d3) [39/39] (B1)
    [c] tactical armor [0/0] (100%)
    [d] red armor [6/6] (100%) (P)
    [e] plasma shield [0/0] (100%)
    [f] power cell (x50)
    [g] power cell (x50)
    [h] power cell (x50)
    [i] power cell (x50)
    [j] large med-pack
    [k] large med-pack
    [l] large med-pack
    [m] large med-pack
    [n] envirosuit pack
    [o] lava element
    [p] sniper weapon pack
    [q] hatred skull
    [r] hatred skull
    [s] tactical boots [0/0] (88%)
    [t] shell box (x100)
    [u] power battery (x120)

-- Resistances -----------------------------------------------

    Acid       - internal 0%    torso 0%    feet 50% 
    Fire       - internal 0%    torso 25%   feet 25% 

-- Kills -----------------------------------------------------

    16 former humans
    16 former sergeants
    7 former captains
    66 imps
    27 demons
    189 lost souls
    26 cacodemons
    23 hell knights
    17 barons of hell
    25 arachnotrons
    1 former commando
    14 pain elementals
    2 revenants
    1 mancubus
    3 arch-viles
    2 shamblers
    1 lava elemental
    1 agony elemental
    1 Cyberdemon
    1 Spider Mastermind

-- History ---------------------------------------------------

  On level 1 he entered Deimos Lab.
  On level 1 he assembled a elephant gun!
  On level 1 he assembled a tactical boots!
  He destroyed the evil within and reaped the rewards!
  On level 4 he romped upon the Abyssal Plains.
  He slaughtered the beasts living there.
  Level 6 was a hard nut to crack!
  On level 6 he ventured into the Spider's Lair.
  He cleared the Lair, kickin' serious spider ass!
  On level 7 he assembled a tactical armor!
  On level 8 he found the Tower of Babel!
  On level 11 he entered the Vaults.
  He nuked level 11!
  He managed to scavenge a part of the Vaults treasures.
  On level 14 he entered the Lava Pits.
  He managed to clear the Lava Pits completely!
  Then at last he found Dis!
  On level 16 he finally defeated the Mastermind.

-- Messages --------------------------------------------------

 The Spider Mastermind flinched! Boom! Boom! Boom! Boom! You are hit! You are
 hit!
 Boom! You are hit! Boom! You are hit! You are hit! Boom!
 Fire -- Choose target...
 You see : a Spider Mastermind (heavily wounded) | floor | [ m ]ore
 The Spider Mastermind flinched! The Spider Mastermind flinched!
 You quickly reload the super shotgun.
 Fire -- Choose target...
 You see : a Spider Mastermind (severely wounded) | floor | [ m ]ore
 The Spider Mastermind flinched!
 You are hit! You are hit! Boom! You dodge! Boom! Boom!
 Fire -- Choose target...
 You see : a Spider Mastermind (mortally wounded) | pool of blood | [ m ]ore
 The Spider Mastermind flinched! The Spider Mastermind dies. Congratulations!
 You defeated the Spider Mastermind! Press <Enter>...
 You feel relatively safe now.

-- General ---------------------------------------------------

 4 brave souls have ventured into Phobos:
 2 of those were killed.

 2 souls destroyed the Mastermind...
 2 killed the bitch and survived.

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Anyone have any insight into my other questions?

1. When throwing a weapon, eg. Combat Knife/Mjollnir, is accuracy determined by Melee or Ranged chance to hit?
2. On that note, is Mjollnir on par with other melee weapons in it's current state (1D15; avg 8 dmg, throw+return attack)?

[LuckyDee]

Is the list of 'random names' published anywhere? And how can one contribute? Or make it to the list, in fact?

I just played a speedrun game to land some easy medals, and on my mortem I saw my scout was actually named 'Ashannar'. Didn't see that one coming... :S

[Klear]

It was one of the rewards during the last donation drive.

[LuckyDee]

Ah, that explains it. And what about the list of all names? And contributions besides your own username?

[Ashannar]

I just played a speedrun game to land some easy medals, and on my mortem I saw my scout was actually named 'Ashannar'. Didn't see that one coming... :S

:D

[LuckyDee]

Lightfoot Platinum: the wiki mentions it has to be performed on UV, but the game doesn't. Which should it be?

If the wiki is right, the in-game description should be updated....

[Fanta Hege]

I've been pondering this simple question for a while:
If you kill yourself and spidermastermind at the same time, without nuking yourself, (ex: BFG10k or rocket launcher point blank) is it a victory, partial or loss?

[Evilpotatoe]

Lightfoot platinum mentionned UV in 0.9.9.6. I noticed it too, and IIRC, failed getting it, coz I played on HNTR.
I think game's decription has to be fixed

For the mastermind, I can't answer, but it's probably not too hard to test with a save (just copy your DoomRL data somewhere if it's not done yet, and scum a little with a save having BFG & rockets ammo)
After a few tries, you should have a good idea of the number of shoots necessary to kill him, and manage to finish both of you with a melee rocket.

[thelaptop]

Lightfoot platinum mentionned UV in 0.9.9.6. I noticed it too, and IIRC, failed getting it, coz I played on HNTR.
I think game's decription has to be fixed.

Done in repo.

[shark20061]

I've been pondering this simple question for a while:
If you kill yourself and spidermastermind at the same time, without nuking yourself, (ex: BFG10k or rocket launcher point blank) is it a victory, partial or loss?

The answer to that question depends on where you happen to be standing relative to the mastermind.

The game processes spaces (EDIT:) row by row, from left to right in each row, starting from the top row going down.

If your space is processed before the Mastermind's, you lose (you'll see the mastermind destruction message after pressing enter for your own 'you die' message).

If the Mastermind's space is processed before yours, it is a standard victory.

So if you plan on doing this, you'll want to be BELOW (or directly RIGHT) of the mastermind, so that its space is processed before yours.

[MaiZure]

Is it possible that there is a general advantage to clearing a level from the Top-Left?

[shark20061]

The processing only applies to area effects, like shotgun blasts and explosions (including nukes).  I don't see any general way to exploit this yet.

[Radagast]

Question:

Is the wiki experience table correct and updated??

This part especially on the last levels:

23    600000
24    800000
25    900000

Seems like a huge step from 23 to 24. (200k?? :O )

Which honestly doesn't apply (I think) to my latest and current ao100 since I got from 23 to 24 quite easily in normal time (just 8-10 dungeon levels or so.)

And regarding the experience another question:

Do we get fewer xp from each enemy the more level ups we get? Or not?