DRL > Requests For Features
NO save challenge mode.
Daqin:
--- Quote from: Potman on January 28, 2008, 09:25 ---
--- Quote from: Daqin on January 28, 2008, 05:42 ---You can back up your save before it vanishes.
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Yes, and that's called savescumming. Making a challenge where only cheating is prevented is, well, kinda silly.
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Whatever the name someone gave to it, I can give it new one, but it doesn't matter.
If, just like you said, it is the only cheating, then why making one mode where it is prevented, is, in your opinion, silly ?
DaEezT:
--- Quote from: Daqin on January 28, 2008, 09:39 ---Whatever the name someone gave to it, I can give it new one, but it doesn't matter.
If, just like you said, it is the only cheating, then why making one mode where it is prevented, is, in your opinion, silly ?
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1. The term savescumming has been around as long as RLs have been around which is over two decades if memory serves.
2. Games are supposed to be played without cheating in the first place so adding a challenge that consists of playing the game without cheating is utterly stupid.
Potman:
--- Quote from: DaEezT on January 28, 2008, 12:18 ---2. Games are supposed to be played without cheating in the first place so adding a challenge that consists of playing the game without cheating is utterly stupid.
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Especially when, if I may add, cheating is still possible in any other kind of game.
Daqin:
1. I said nothing about if it was for long or short. That doesn't matter too, especially if it is not used by everyone. You don't believe it came from the God and people followed, do you ? What usually happens is someone says something, other people think it is the term, and wise, and repeat that. Long or short doesn't change the origin. And if you like to speak about stupid things so much, then I'd rather repeating things this way find silly. And people may, and do, call it by many different names, so again, I would say it is silly to make announcements that something is called by certain name, making yourself look bit naive by revealing your belief in the fixed meaning of the words.
2. If you call cheating prevention uterelly stupid just because the game was supposed to be played without cheating, then how stupid is your belief that all players will actually follow that just because 'it is supposed' ?
Having forum and mortem posting, it would make certain that mortems from this challenge were without cheating. Or again, maybe you believe all people don't cheat, because they are not supposed too ?
Besides, adding such option would add different kind of challenge, because you would have to play it almost without leaving the computer (like in AlienRL without save), straight from begining to the end, a little longer DoomRL adventure.
Potman:
--- Quote from: Daqin on January 29, 2008, 01:32 ---2. If you call cheating prevention uterelly stupid just because the game was supposed to be played without cheating, then how stupid is your belief that all players will actually follow that just because 'it is supposed' ?
Having forum and mortem posting, it would make certain that mortems from this challenge were without cheating. Or again, maybe you believe all people don't cheat, because they are not supposed too ?
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We're not thinking that all players play that way. We're not saying that all mortems are made without cheating. You're missing the entire point here. Because your argument is not "I think we should prevent cheating". It's "I think we should make a challenge that prevent cheating, thus conveniently allow the cheaters not to choose it and non-cheaters just ignore it". It's what I call stupid and pointless.
--- Quote ---Besides, adding such option would add different kind of challenge, because you would have to play it almost without leaving the computer (like in AlienRL without save), straight from begining to the end, a little longer DoomRL adventure.
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And what'd be the point of that? Already the sole reason non-cheaters save their games is to have a break on the computer. Maybe they'll need to save because they have something more important to do. And what do you think will happen when this option is removed? They can't just take a break anymore. If it's something really important, their only option will be to commit suicide, possibly bringing a promising game to stupid end. Or if it's just something slightly less important, such as going fishing with your son, you'll just go "Hang on, I'll just play this game first" and gain reputation as a father who puts his stupid video game before spending quality time with his kid.
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