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Re: Quick questions thread!
« Reply #1125 on: September 01, 2018, 15:31 »

i dont think the enemies in N! have a speed boost, but might fire more frequently

According to the wiki, it's both.  (Or rather the player is slowed down, so the enemies seem faster in comparison)

In fact, I'm now aiming to do "easy N!" with AoMC, so my actual target is to do Hell Arena Pwnage badge...

I just realized that I forgot to include the video where I did just that!  :)

Basically, I got Intuition 2 first and then Hellrunner to help me keep ahead of Demons to maneuver them into corpse-stacking positions.  I also stocked up on as much ammo as I could carry, which is important, because this strategy calls for a lot of shooting into the shadows at things you can't see and even with AoMC, that means using a lot of ammo.  (EDIT:  Also, needless to say, you need to be *very* careful with each and every step that you don't step into view of any unknown enemies, because if it's a Cacodemon or Baron, they'll ruin your day)
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Re: Quick questions thread!
« Reply #1126 on: September 03, 2018, 09:40 »

According to the wiki, it's both.  (Or rather the player is slowed down, so the enemies seem faster in comparison)

I just realized that I forgot to include the video where I did just that!  :)

Basically, I got Intuition 2 first and then Hellrunner to help me keep ahead of Demons to maneuver them into corpse-stacking positions.  I also stocked up on as much ammo as I could carry, which is important, because this strategy calls for a lot of shooting into the shadows at things you can't see and even with AoMC, that means using a lot of ammo.  (EDIT:  Also, needless to say, you need to be *very* careful with each and every step that you don't step into view of any unknown enemies, because if it's a Cacodemon or Baron, they'll ruin your day)
Wow, I seem to be doing about right in my runs. I sometimes do win the arena, not yet pwn tho, well it will eventually happen I believe. Thanks :)

Also in that vid the player's speed w/o Hellrunner is still listed as 0.91s, as it is in UV and below for a scout, but enemies are clearly moving a lil faster.
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Re: Quick questions thread!
« Reply #1127 on: September 05, 2018, 07:41 »

After not getting anywhere close to winning in N! AoMC, I have decided to try something "easier" - UV AoSh. Dam, they always get me by CC, either barons gang up or Arena Master fries me. How do you people get Unchained Court done with AoSh? If I skip CC, things go decently well until Hell's Armory, where the shambler fries me as well, with double or tac, no matter.
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Re: Quick questions thread!
« Reply #1128 on: September 05, 2018, 12:58 »

i wouldn't attempt unchained court it unless i had gotten a combat shotgun (or better) and a box of shells. even then it would be a challenge

hell's armory is doable but deimos lab is incredibly tough on AoSh unless you get lucky with something like a super shotgun. if you're doing scout build you should have intuition and hellrunner 2 by that point which will greatly help when you need to run away behind a wall when one teleports next to you and you can't blow it back with knockback in time to duck behind a corner
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Re: Quick questions thread!
« Reply #1129 on: September 05, 2018, 19:58 »

It's probably worth mentioning that in my AoSh game, I cleared CC+ at Nightmare!  :)  (I had a Combat Shotgun and shellbox, which were obviously a huge help)
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Re: Quick questions thread!
« Reply #1130 on: September 05, 2018, 23:58 »

Wow, need to check that game for tips. I normally still have a shell box from wiping Hell Arena, as with AoSh an Int2 arena is sort of a cakewalk unless you get swarmed in an instant at the start of the next wave. But a combat shotgun is not a frequent drop on Phobos lv5, and even if I do get that AND a P-mod to augment it at once, I seem to get cornered by barons pretty often. I have managed to get some of them with relative safety, but then that moment happens when a baron enters left doors with you engaged in damaging one (or two!) other barons, you have to flee as in cramped quarters that baron has an advantage, and you normally can't push it back out of the doors and maybe into the lava... OW, OW, AAAAAHHHHHH! And since there's no cover outside, you're pretty much screwed. Then yet again, the Vile. I couldn't down it last time on UV with zerk on at first and a double shotty plus Shottyman AND HR2 (no combat shotgun for me that time), got it to mortally wounded before it fried me.

I start to clear Deimos Lab and NOT releasing the shamblers, they are too dam tough and mobile to tackle, perhaps if I'd be a zerker then maaaybe I'd decode to communicate to them my need of packs (:D), but likely not on any other setting. The location where they appear is too small for ranged combat and too hot for melee, should they start teleporting (which I think they never do if engaged, still one needs to close the distance first). One Shambler is doable, esp if you can take some cover after it teleports. Just did a successful AoSh run tho, gonna post a mortem as it has something to boast on my skill level.
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