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 on: October 22, 2018, 08:00 
Started by Dervis - Last post by Tavana
I believe that at this point there's no viable way to get involved in the beta testing. Eventually Jupiter Hell will move to Early Access on Steam, and I believe access will be able to be purchased then, but that's still a ways off. This is all hearsay from me, however.

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 on: October 22, 2018, 01:52 
Started by the_scented_llama_of_doom - Last post by the_scented_llama_of_doom
Thanks guys!

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i always skipped the mortuary and cathedral, but this definitely puts you in a good position to try it for the elite, especially if you weren't even aiming for the angelic on this run

Well - the intention was to do the cathedral from the start which helps :-) I had the Angelic in the back of my mind but I've had to abort on previous runs so I was just trying to keep things going. When I found the plasma shotgun in Deimos Lab I knew I could probably pull it off. Once I decided to go for the angelic I knew I pretty much had to do the mortuary (the RNG loves not giving me nukes when I want them) but I was happy to see Limbo instead. Btw: The Elite is much harder than this badge. No AoMC to make life easy! I'm back to the old 'constantly dying on level 3' routine...

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Very nice win!  Conqueror too!  :D  I know from experience that this challenge takes a *lot* of patience, so good for you for sticking out.  :)

Meh - it only took 21 hours apparently :-) Which did involve me leaving my laptop on overnight but, yeah, this takes forever!

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 on: October 20, 2018, 12:17 
Started by Dervis - Last post by Dervis
Hey! It's been a while :).

JH is looking great. How can i get into the beta?

Cheers

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 on: October 20, 2018, 10:03 
Started by the_scented_llama_of_doom - Last post by Tormuse
Very nice win!  Conqueror too!  :D  I know from experience that this challenge takes a *lot* of patience, so good for you for sticking out.  :)

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 on: October 20, 2018, 07:25 
Started by the_scented_llama_of_doom - Last post by khiijol
very impressive run! you dont need to get conqueror to get this angelic, so i always skipped the mortuary and cathedral, but this definitely puts you in a good position to try it for the elite, especially if you weren't even aiming for the angelic on this run

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 on: October 19, 2018, 00:33 
Started by the_scented_llama_of_doom - Last post by the_scented_llama_of_doom
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The "Tormuse Method."  I love it!  :D  Are you able to reproduce it at will?

Well, I started off at the left side of the map and ended up dancing around the leftmost and second pillar at the bottom. I was being really careful only taking shots when I knew she couldn't fire back. I was safe - HR2 and Int2 pretty much guarantee a Masterminds Brain but it was taking forever. After a while I checked and she was only 'scratched' so I thought, what the heck, maybe the 'Tormuse Method' would work :-)

I headed to the top of the map and set things up exactly as you did. Int2 let me monitor her movements - it looked pretty random in the beginning but she consistently ended up in the firing line. There was one moment when it looked like she might escape, something like this:

.............
......####.@.
......####...
......####...
......####...
.....*.......

It only happened once and she moved back down but it was a little worrying. At some point though the random movements stopped and she basically just kept alternating between being in the firing line and one step away. All in all it worked like a charm - she went down pretty quickly once I got going.

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  I was in a state of mad panic, flying by the seat of my pants when I came up with that.  :P

That video of yours is ridiculously awesome (I've watched it twice)! That bit at the end where you think your way through to a win has an almost mythic quality. Bet the documentary 'The Road to Everyman Angelic' would be fun to watch :-) (The interview with the Spider Mastermind at the end would be the best: you'd have a lot of hellspeak and a translator saying something like:
"Look, the dude had no traits and a weapon that did no damage and no hitpoints. Should've been just another day at the office. I don't know what happened!"

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 on: October 18, 2018, 11:34 
Started by the_scented_llama_of_doom - Last post by Tormuse
I used the Tormuse Method (check out his Everyman Angelic - it's required viewing!) to take down the Spider Mastermind and it worked like a charm!

The "Tormuse Method."  I love it!  :D  Are you able to reproduce it at will?  I was in a state of mad panic, flying by the seat of my pants when I came up with that.  :P

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 on: October 18, 2018, 07:00 
Started by the_scented_llama_of_doom - Last post by the_scented_llama_of_doom
Of all the Angelic's this is the one I always thought was within my grasp. I usually play a damage focused game (lots of SoB levels) but this time I went for a speed focused build. The initial idea was to get another Longinus Diamond (got it before in 0.9.9.6) but as I went through the levels everything clicked and I realised I was on track for another Angelic. I guess it's a little tacky using AoMC to get it but I think this is a good platform to aim for an Elite :-)

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 DoomRL (0.9.9.7) roguelike post-mortem character dump
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 Nils Bloodaxe,
 level 18 Arch-Vile Lt. General Scout,
 nuked the Mastermind at the Hell Fortress.
 He survived 455503 turns and scored 1136070 points.
 He played for 21 hours and 50 seconds.
 He opposed the Nightmare!

 He killed 2032 out of 2032 hellspawn. (100%)
 This ass-kicking marine killed all of them!
 He was an Angel of Max Carnage!

-- Special levels --------------------------------------------

  Levels generated : 11
  Levels visited   : 11
  Levels completed : 11

-- Awards ----------------------------------------------------

  Medal of Prejudice
  UAC Star (gold cluster)
  Aurora Medallion
  Conqueror Badge
  Grim Reaper's Badge
  Hell Armorer Badge
  Hell Champion Medal
  Veteran Diamond Badge
  Veteran Angelic Badge
  Reaper Platinum Badge
  Longinus Platinum Badge
  Longinus Diamond Badge

-- Graveyard -------------------------------------------------

  ###########################################################
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  ....................................................|X....#
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  ###########################################################

-- Statistics ------------------------------------------------

  Health 66/60   Experience 188164/18
  ToHit Ranged +12  ToHit Melee +12  ToDmg Ranged +0  ToDmg Melee +0

-- Traits ----------------------------------------------------

  Class : Scout

    Ironman          (Level 1)
    Finesse          (Level 3)
    Hellrunner       (Level 3)
    Tough as nails   (Level 3)
    Juggler          (Level 1)
    Dodgemaster      (Level 1)
    Intuition        (Level 2)
    Whizkid          (Level 2)
    Badass           (Level 2)

  Int->Int->HR->Fin->HR->Fin->WK->WK->DM->Jug->TaN->HR->Fin->TaN->TaN->Bad->Iro->Bad->

-- Equipment -------------------------------------------------

    [a] [ Armor      ]   Angelic Armor [3/7] (40%)
    [b] [ Weapon     ]   Azrael's Scythe (9d9)
    [c] [ Boots      ]   tactical boots [0/0] (100%)
    [d] [ Prepared   ]   nothing

-- Inventory -------------------------------------------------

    [a] plasmatic combat shotgun (7d3) [5/5]
    [b] chaingun (1d6)x4 [40/40] (T1)
    [c] burst plasma rifle (1d9)x8 [80/80]
    [d] tactical armor [0/0] (100%)
    [e] 10mm ammo (x140)
    [f] 10mm ammo (x140)
    [g] 10mm ammo (x140)
    [h] 10mm ammo (x140)
    [i] shotgun shell (x70)
    [j] power cell (x70)
    [k] power cell (x70)
    [l] power cell (x70)
    [m] large med-pack
    [n] large med-pack
    [o] large med-pack
    [p] phase device
    [q] phase device
    [r] homing phase device
    [s] 10mm ammo chain (x250)
    [t] shell box (x100)
    [u] shell box (x100)

-- Resistances -----------------------------------------------

    Bullet     - internal 0%    torso 25%   feet 0%   
    Melee      - internal 0%    torso 25%   feet 0%   
    Shrapnel   - internal 0%    torso 25%   feet 0%   

-- Kills -----------------------------------------------------

    317 former humans
    134 former sergeants
    92 former captains
    209 imps
    126 demons
    531 lost souls
    79 cacodemons
    28 hell knights
    63 barons of hell
    105 arachnotrons
    29 former commandos
    59 pain elementals
    66 revenants
    44 mancubi
    50 arch-viles
    10 nightmare imps
    21 nightmare cacodemons
    27 nightmare demons
    11 nightmare arachnotrons
    7 elite former humans
    5 elite former sergeants
    7 elite former commandos
    2 bruiser brothers
    3 shamblers
    1 lava elemental
    1 agony elemental
    1 Angel of Death
    1 Cyberdemon
    1 Spider Mastermind
    1 John Carmack
    1 Arena Master

-- History ---------------------------------------------------

  He started his journey on the surface of Phobos.
  On level 2 he entered Hell's Arena.
  He left the Arena as a champion!
  On level 5 he stormed the Chained Court.
  On level 5 he found the Arena Master's Staff!
  He defeated the Hell Arena Master!
  On level 6 he assembled a tactical boots!
  On level 7 he marched into the Military Base.
  He purified his fellow comrades.
  On level 8 he encountered the Phobos Anomaly.
  On level 9 he entered Deimos Lab.
  On level 9 he assembled a burst cannon!
  On level 9 he assembled a tactical armor!
  On level 9 he assembled a plasmatic shrapnel!
  He destroyed the evil within and reaped the rewards!
  On level 11 he arrived at the Containment Area.
  He emerged from the Containment Area victorious!
  On level 12 he found the City of Skulls.
  He wiped out the City of Skulls.
  On level 13 he assembled a ripper!
  On level 14 he ventured into the Spider's Lair.
  He cleared the Lair, kickin' serious spider ass!
  On level 15 he found the Lava Armor!
  On level 16 he found the Tower of Babel!
  On level 17 he invaded the Unholy Cathedral!
  On level 17 he found the Azrael's Scythe!
  He then destroyed the Unholy Cathedral!
  On level 19 he entered the Vaults.
  He cracked the Vaults and cleared them out!
  On level 20 he was foolish enough to enter Limbo!
  On level 20 he found the Angelic Armor!
  He managed to clear Limbo from evil!
  On level 21 he ran for his life from lava!
  He sounded the alarm on level 22!
  On level 22 he arrived at Mt. Erebus.
  He managed to raise Mt. Erebus completely!
  Then at last he found Dis!
  He overloaded a nuclear BFG 9000 on level 24!
  He defeated the Mastermind and found the TRUE EVIL!
  Then finally in Hell itself, he killed the final EVIL.

-- Messages --------------------------------------------------

 Carmack raises his hands and summons hellspawn!
 You hit the lost soul. The lost soul dies.
 You hit the lost soul. The lost soul dies.
 You miss John Carmack. You are hit!
 You hit John Carmack.
 You hit John Carmack. John Carmack reloads his rocket launcher.
 You hit John Carmack.
 You hit John Carmack. The lost soul hits you. The lost soul hits you.
 You hit John Carmack. You are hit! The lost soul dies. The lost soul dies.
 The lost soul dies. Your Angelic Armor is damaged! The lost soul dies. The
 lost soul dies. The lost soul dies.
 You hit John Carmack.
 You miss John Carmack.
 John Carmack reloads his rocket launcher.
 You hit John Carmack. John Carmack dies. Congratulations! You defeated John
 Carmack! Press <Enter>...

-- General ---------------------------------------------------

 897 brave souls have ventured into Phobos:
 834 of those were killed.
 1 of those was killed by something unknown.
 10 didn't read the thermonuclear bomb manual.
 And 31 couldn't handle the stress and committed a stupid suicide.

 21 souls destroyed the Mastermind...
 3 sacrificed itself for the good of mankind.
 14 killed the bitch and survived.
 4 showed that it can outsmart Hell itself.

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There was a plasma shotgun in Deimos Lab but I got a sniper/power mod combo and chose to make a plasmatic combat shotgun instead. I thought it would make more sense because shells are easier to manage as an ammo source. After that I just rolled along - with guaranteed corpse disposal nightmare isn't that bad :-)

My first Longinus Diamond used the knife throwing technique but this time I wanted to do it properly. Between HR3, Fin3 and the ripper the AoD went down hard (although it wasn't damageless - took me a moment to work out the right rhythm to avoid getting hit).

Limbo was alright, felt easier than the Mortuary (first time I've finished it!). Helped a lot that I had some seriously big guns and corpse disposal at the ready.

I periodically ran out of plasma but never shells which, I think, validates my decision with the combat shotgun. Having a massively damaging melee option didn't hurt either :-)

And now I'm finally a full General :-)

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 on: October 16, 2018, 07:17 
Started by the_scented_llama_of_doom - Last post by the_scented_llama_of_doom
Whoo hoo! First Angelic! With two bonus diamonds!

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 DoomRL (0.9.9.7) roguelike post-mortem character dump
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 Ashannar, level 7 Arch-Vile Lt. General Scout,
 defeated the Mastermind at the City of Dis.
 He survived 162569 turns and scored 153212 points.
 He played for 2 hours, 24 minutes and 43 seconds.
 He opposed the Nightmare!

 He killed 1092 out of 1255 hellspawn. (87%)
 He was an Angel of Shotgunnery!
 He was also an Angel of Overconfidence!

-- Special levels --------------------------------------------

  Levels generated : 4
  Levels visited   : 1
  Levels completed : 0

-- Awards ----------------------------------------------------

  Mastermind's Brain
  UAC Star (gold cluster)
  Shottyman Gold Badge
  Shottyman Platinum Badge
  Shottyman Diamond Badge
  Shottyman Angelic Badge
  Daredevil Diamond Badge

-- Graveyard -------------------------------------------------

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  ##########...............####.X.............###############
  #########.......####.....####.....####.......##############
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  #####............................................##########
  #####....####............................####....##########
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  #####....####............................####&...##########
  #####....####............................####....##########
  #####............................................##########
  ######..........####..............####..........###########
  #######.........####.....####.....####.........############
  ########........####.....####.....####........#############
  #########.......####.....####.....####.......##############
  ##########...............####...............###############
  ###########................................################
  ###########################################################

-- Statistics ------------------------------------------------

  Health 50/50   Experience 21008/7
  ToHit Ranged +0  ToHit Melee +0  ToDmg Ranged +3  ToDmg Melee +3

-- Traits ----------------------------------------------------

  Class : Scout

    Hellrunner       (Level 2)
    Son of a bitch   (Level 3)
    Intuition        (Level 2)

  SoB->SoB->SoB->HR->HR->Int->Int->

-- Equipment -------------------------------------------------

    [a] [ Armor      ]   Medical Powerarmor [4/4] (94%)
    [b] [ Weapon     ]   assault shotgun (7d3) [5/6] (T1)
    [c] [ Boots      ]   steel boots [1/1] (100%) (A)
    [d] [ Prepared   ]   nothing

-- Inventory -------------------------------------------------

    [a] green armor [1/1] (72%)
    [b] shotgun shell (x50)
    [c] shotgun shell (x50)
    [d] shotgun shell (x50)
    [e] shotgun shell (x50)
    [f] shotgun shell (x50)
    [g] shotgun shell (x50)
    [h] shotgun shell (x50)
    [i] shotgun shell (x50)
    [j] shotgun shell (x50)
    [k] shotgun shell (x50)
    [l] shotgun shell (x19)
    [m] shotgun shell (x50)
    [n] shotgun shell (x50)
    [o] shotgun shell (x50)
    [p] shotgun shell (x50)
    [q] large med-pack
    [r] large med-pack

-- Resistances -----------------------------------------------

    None

-- Kills -----------------------------------------------------

    6 former humans
    914 former sergeants
    40 former captains
    16 imps
    21 demons
    30 lost souls
    2 cacodemons
    10 hell knights
    27 barons of hell
    9 former commandos
    3 pain elementals
    1 revenant
    8 mancubi
    4 arch-viles
    1 Spider Mastermind

-- History ---------------------------------------------------

  On level 2 he found the Medical Powerarmor!
  He left level 5 as soon as possible.
  On level 6 he entered the Lava Pits.
  He decided it was too hot there.
  Then at last he found Dis!
  On level 8 he finally defeated the Mastermind.

-- Messages --------------------------------------------------

 Fire -- Choose target...
 You see : a Spider Mastermind (almost dead) | pool of blood | [ m ]ore
 You reload the assault shotgun.
 Fire -- Choose target...
 You see : a Spider Mastermind (almost dead) | pool of blood | [ m ]ore
 You reload the assault shotgun.
 Fire -- Choose target...
 You see : a Spider Mastermind (almost dead) | pool of blood | [ m ]ore
 You reload the assault shotgun.
 Fire -- Choose target...
 You see : a Spider Mastermind (almost dead) | pool of blood | [ m ]ore
 You reload the assault shotgun.
 Fire -- Choose target...
 You see : a Spider Mastermind (almost dead) | pool of blood | [ m ]ore
 The Spider Mastermind dies. Congratulations! You defeated the Spider
 Mastermind! Press <Enter>...

-- General ---------------------------------------------------

 846 brave souls have ventured into Phobos:
 786 of those were killed.
 1 of those was killed by something unknown.
 10 didn't read the thermonuclear bomb manual.
 And 29 couldn't handle the stress and committed a stupid suicide.

 20 souls destroyed the Mastermind...
 3 sacrificed itself for the good of mankind.
 14 killed the bitch and survived.
 3 showed that it can outsmart Hell itself.

--------------------------------------------------------------

I got lucky with the first 2 levels - nice layouts and I was able to farm a few hundred sergeants on level 2. Had a bad moment on level 1 when I got caught by a Mancubus/Baron tag team. I'd been camping so they were respawning faster than I could kill them! Luckily I managed to make to the level exit... Level 2 was better and left as my kill count hit 1000 - I thought that would be enough to carry me through :-) Level 3 had a great layout and an invulnerability sphere next to the stairs. I was doing really well when I got caught between a Mancubus and a Hell Knight, again! This time I was in a tight spot and what saved my bacon was a hastily slammed door (breaking line of sight with the Mancubus), an env suit and a mad dash to the invulnerability. I just made it! My kill count was good so I basically stair dived from there. Level 7 spawned me right next to a Mancubus Vile pack. Luckily I had a spare env suit and the stairs weren't too far...

I used the Tormuse Method (check out his Everyman Angelic - it's required viewing!) to take down the Spider Mastermind and it worked like a charm!

I get why everyone says this is the easiest Angelic to get - just takes a bit of luck and persistence. I had a great run yesterday when I found a plasma shotgun - was going amazingly until I ran out of ammo on level 6. Oh well - got it today!

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 on: October 13, 2018, 04:21 
Started by the_scented_llama_of_doom - Last post by the_scented_llama_of_doom
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Oh, hey!  I just realized I forgot to reply to your other post requesting tips for AoMr.  :o  Sorry about that, but I guess you didn't need them after all.  Well done!  :D  (Blaster looks like it was a super lucky find!)

No worries - your videos helped a ton (although you're a little too good - I just can't pull off some of those strategies yet. I find 'be very lucky' is my current manoeuvre of choice :-) ). Blaster was a great find - I've been getting really depressed since the RNG seems to take sadistic glee in never generating pistols in a marksman game...

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feel like I want to do a Gun Kata version of this game at some point, just for a change of pace.

I think I played about 10 Technicians to every Scout and the Scouts had a much better average - the Hellrunner levels make quite a difference in the early game. I just haven't got the feel for Gun Kata though - after Sharpshooter my game ramps up nicely but after Gun Kata I feel like things start to slip... Probably because I don't play it enough. My best run prior to this was a masterless Scout that was basically a Gun Kata build with a few SoB levels - worked really well too. I might actually recommend Gun Kata over Sharpshooter because it makes the early game so much easier and makes the 'run like hell through the anomaly' strategy much more reliable... Just take a level of Eagle Eye at some point because good grief do Scouts miss a lot :-/

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