Have you ever had a random idea coming up in your mind that you'd always wanted to lose in the Requests For Features section, but is so horrible that it would be plain ridiculous to do so? Well, look no further!
While the Requests For Features section is for "All those crazy ideas you'd like to see implemented in DoomRL", in this thread you can get rid of "All those retarded ideas you'd never want to ruin DoomRL with"!
Before you "suggest" something here, think about your idea actually being implemented in DoomRL. If you're starting to feel disgusted or get a sudden urge to facepalm, post it!
Here's mine:
When you've killed Cyberdemon, the game wouldn't end, but instead an extra staircase appears somewhere in the level, and if you go down, you get into a room full of dancing monsters to whom you can talk. If you talk to them, they'll say things like "Congraturation!" and other completely useless crap.
In order to complete the game, you *must* go all the way through this room (and you can't attack the monsters... we don't wanna spoil the fun party!).
Uh... how do we talk to the dancing monsters if we can't attack them? If I recall correctly, even walking into them is considered an attack...
Deus Ex hidden level? :P
Angel of Deja Vu
"Wait, why does this feel familiar?"
Unlike Angel of Haste, you have to fight through each level twice, and the second fight through does not give any experience. And if you do venture into the Mortuary... good luck. You need to kill those things twice. Oh did I mention that whatever was spawned and taken/destroyed stays taken/destroyed i.e. not going to respawn? So for example, you won't see another backpack in the Wall on your second time down.
Oh this means twice the Cybie fight for a win, and if you get further than that, you have to fight that thing twice also to consider it a win.
How about an imp who has to infiltrate a Marine Base, instead of the other way around?
Angel of Min Carnage
"I'm the most unluckiest man alive."
You are a decent marine, having decent aim and all. But whatever weapons you use, you always cause minimum damage. In this Bizarro world twist, everyone and everything does the minimum possible damage while leaving hit percentages untouched.
That's one long way down...
Hell's Football Special Level (Football here refers to the American version, not the usual one we are all familiar with.)
In this special level, you start on one end of a mostly empty arena (which might have some 4x3 pillars that are destructible). On the far end of the level is a room with indestructible walls and a single door (and the stairs down ho ho ho). Behind you, two tiles away, is a standard demon. Your task is to lead the demon into the room on the far end (the Corral) and close the door behind you. Your reward is a Megasphere that will appear in the Corral when the demon is successfully in the room with the door closed.
But watch out! Guarding the room are four Barons of Hell, with the intention of killing the demon (and you of course!). At any time, once the demon dies, you will never be able to get the reward, since it's impossible to have it resurrect so that you can lead it into the room.
Good luck trying to score the touch down for Hell's Football!
Angel of Nuclear Fire
You are armed with only one weapon: the Thermonuclear bomb. Actually, your entire inventory is full of it. Your task is to make it down to the Cyberdemon and kill that thing once and for all.
It's like AoRA except you have the nukes in your hands, but cannot wield any other weapons for use.
Angel of Mutation
Guess they should have figured out a better way to dispose of their radioactive waste. You're on a mission to kill the Cyberdemon, and the deeper you delve, the higher your level (similar to AoPc) - the only catch is that you don't get to pick your traits. The upside? You can get any traits randomly (weighted list). The downside? You might become a Cyberdemon eventually. Who knows?
Quote from: thelaptop on November 14, 2010, 00:17Hell's Football Special Level (Football here refers to the American version, not the usual one we are all familiar with.)
In this special level, you start on one end of a mostly empty arena (which might have some 4x3 pillars that are destructible). On the far end of the level is a room with indestructible walls and a single door (and the stairs down ho ho ho). Behind you, two tiles away, is a standard demon. Your task is to lead the demon into the room on the far end (the Corral) and close the door behind you. Your reward is a Megasphere that will appear in the Corral when the demon is successfully in the room with the door closed.
But watch out! Guarding the room are four Barons of Hell, with the intention of killing the demon (and you of course!). At any time, once the demon dies, you will never be able to get the reward, since it's impossible to have it resurrect so that you can lead it into the room.
Good luck trying to score the touch down for Hell's Football!
O.O
C... can you repeat that, please? :P
Quote from: Tavana on November 14, 2010, 01:11The downside? You might become a Cyberdemon eventually. Who knows?
In terms of gameplay, how is that a downside? :>
Quote from: thelaptop on November 14, 2010, 00:11Angel of Min Carnage
"I'm the most unluckiest man alive."
You are a decent marine, having decent aim and all. But whatever weapons you use, you always cause minimum damage. In this Bizarro world twist, everyone and everything does the minimum possible damage while leaving hit percentages untouched.
That's one long way down...
Melee build anyone? Brute and Vampire would go a loooong way making this easy.
Quote from: Stormlock on November 14, 2010, 20:22Melee build anyone? Brute and Vampire would go a loooong way making this easy.
Assuming you don't get bored with the killing... >.>
Angel of Novels
For the slightest thing that happens, the game shows extremely elaborate messages, making you have to press enter like 10-15 times per average turn. But beware, at a random moment, randomly between a bunch of messages, the game will show an important message with a security code which you need to advance to the next level, so you actually need to read everything if you don't wanna get stuck (of course, entering the wrong code will kill you).
"You move your left leg up!"
"You put your left foot onto the next space!"
"You move your right leg up!"
"You put your right foot onto the next space!"
"Let's see what's happening over there!"
"The Baron of Hell presses the button to open the door!"
"The door opens, making a 'fyuw!' sound!"
"The code is 'headache'."
"The Baron of Hell summons a fire ball!"
"Oops, I meant acid ball! Sorry!"
"The Baron of Hell swings his arm, throwing the acid ball at you!"
"The acid ball... oooh will it hit wil it hit... mmmmmmm NO! You've dodged the attack! Well done, marine!"
"The acid ball hits a wall and disappears!"
"Ok, your turn. Hey, wake up man!"
Angel of Bad Plot Holes
It's like a normal game, except that there is a small percentage of floor tiles that are just holes in disguise. If you fall through one, you land on the ground below, and take 2-10 points of damage. Oh, stairs don't really exist, except for the ones leading to special levels, which, incidentally, still have their usual exits with zero floor tiles that are holes in disguise.
lower the damage and I'd play it...
Quote from: Stormlock on November 14, 2010, 20:22Quote from: thelaptop on November 14, 2010, 00:11Angel of Min Carnage
"I'm the most unluckiest man alive."
You are a decent marine, having decent aim and all. But whatever weapons you use, you always cause minimum damage. In this Bizarro world twist, everyone and everything does the minimum possible damage while leaving hit percentages untouched.
That's one long way down...
Melee build anyone? Brute and Vampire would go a loooong way making this easy.
Yeah... You'd have to be
terribly careful of Viles though (keep in mind that they do 10d1 and thus "min damage" and "max damage" for them is exactly the same).
I am Death Incarnate! difficulty:
In addition to all normal enemy bonuses on UV, enemies deal twice as much damage and take no friendly fire (including splash). All Former Humans are replaced with Former Captains, and all Hell Knights are replaced with Barons of Hell. Finally, the Cyberdemon's rocket launcher is replaced with a quad-fire chaingun (meaning 16 shots at once) and 400 ammo to boot, and is invulnerable to nuclear damage. Enjoy your stay! (Secretly, JC would have the same changes, in case someone thinks they're being clever.)
And before you say anything, no, this wouldn't be pleasant to play at ALL. I just like the Wolf3d reference.
Quote from: Game Hunter on November 20, 2010, 13:18I am Death Incarnate! difficulty:
In addition to all normal enemy bonuses on UV, enemies deal twice as much damage and take no friendly fire (including splash). All Former Humans are replaced with Former Captains, and all Hell Knights are replaced with Barons of Hell. Finally, the Cyberdemon's rocket launcher is replaced with a quad-fire chaingun (meaning 16 shots at once) and 400 ammo to boot, and is invulnerable to nuclear damage. Enjoy your stay! (Secretly, JC would have the same changes, in case someone thinks they're being clever.)
And before you say anything, no, this wouldn't be pleasant to play at ALL. I just like the Wolf3d reference.
Of course, if you did do that, you'd probably have to make it so that, if you decided to nuke Cybie anyway, that you couldn't go down the stairs untill you'd killed him, because otherwise a player might "skip" cybie, which would probably glitch the game up something chronic...
I've skipped him before:
http://forum.chaosforge.org/index.php/topic,3418.0.html (http://forum.chaosforge.org/index.php/topic,3418.0.html)
It bugs the game as much as running from hell's arena does, none at all.
The point of the changes to JC is so you cannot run away to an easier boss.
Angel of Sheer Bad Luck
You are the unluckiest sonofabitch in the marines. All of Hell is against you (doing maximum damage with maximum accuracy), while you are mediocre at best (minimum damage, no accuracy bonuses). Medpacks don't work well with your lousy constitution (heals at 50% of what the medpack usually heals), and you have no bloody idea how to use any of those globes and spheres out there (none of the globes and spheres work, not even automap). Everything you pick up is always weakened (half the number of dice for damage dealing weapons, half the stack of the magazine/clip if it has one, and half the durability for armours/boots), and phase devices just blow up in your face (phase and homing phase devices cause 10HP damage upon pick up). And may God help you if you pick up a thermonuclear device (50% chance of going off immediately on pick up).
At least that environment suit works fine...
Quote from: thelaptop on January 11, 2011, 00:07Angel of Sheer Bad Luck
You are the unluckiest sonofabitch in the marines. All of Hell is against you (doing maximum damage with maximum accuracy), while you are mediocre at best (minimum damage, no accuracy bonuses). Medpacks don't work well with your lousy constitution (heals at 50% of what the medpack usually heals), and you have no bloody idea how to use any of those globes and spheres out there (none of the globes and spheres work, not even automap). Everything you pick up is always weakened (half the number of dice for damage dealing weapons, half the stack of the magazine/clip if it has one, and half the durability for armours/boots), and phase devices just blow up in your face (phase and homing phase devices cause 10HP damage upon pick up). And may God help you if you pick up a thermonuclear device (50% chance of going off immediately on pick up).
At least that environment suit works fine...
*blink*
That's not just a horrible idea. That's a THE HORRIBLE idea (all-caps with a 'the' and a syntax error).
Quote from: thelaptop on January 11, 2011, 00:07And may God help you if you pick up a thermonuclear device (50% chance of going off immediately on pick up).
What God? The RNG? Naaah...
Quote from: Mrazerty on January 11, 2011, 06:51What God? The RNG? Naaah...
Oh just pick your favourite higher order being that looks upon you in favour/disdain.
=D
Angel of Drunkness
What is wrong with you, going to drink like that on an important mission! Its even worse! This hell forces stuck you to completely smashed conditition. It's a miracle if you can even walk straight (high chance you step a block next to the block you intendet to walk to), your aim has turned awful, you keep spraying bullets everywhere! (bullets and shotguns have 30% chance to shoot in a 45 degree off to the direction you were suppoused to shoot) Mod packs can be used but for hell you know which piece you were suppoused to put them again.. (places modpacks on random items even in the backpack), Enviro suits and phase devices? you just break em and swear something. Wearing, changing items and medipack using takes double the time! Your line of sight also keeps changing between normal and -1, -2, -3. If you find weapons with special reloads/fires, you never know what kind of weird ideas you might get out of using weapons like this (you might sometimes randomly use alt reaload/fire when using them and vica versa fire normally when trying to use the alts). If you carry a nuke, you might randomly use it when you're walking cause it seemed like an awesome idea at the time..
On a positive note, thise globes seem to work better when you're drunk for some reason and give 50% health/repair/duration than usual.
Useless lever
Effect: gives random stupid/pointless/useless massage, explodes if pulled too many times
Usage: 5, barrel of fuel explosion on 6th time
Message ( one at the time ): " You hear the gospel in Catedral, " Ground shakes for a moment",
" You hear Cyberdemon voice:Get down here already!", " You hear demons having shover",
" You hear alarm clock but don't seems to wake up", " Corpses cease to stink", " Your weapons are now clean and shiny ",
" You wonder about new DoomRL version", "You have SMS, but you left cellphone on Earth",
" You smell dinner from Hell's kitchen", " You hear angel thoughts: Where did I put my armor?",
" You hear advertisement: Fun for whole family and neighbourhood. Get your own BFG today!", " You hear fart noise",
" WARNING, THIS LEVER IT'S POINTLESS, PULL TO WASTE EVEN MORE TIME", " You hear toilet flush,
" What do you wish for... AHAH, just kidding", " You have mail! But no computer to read it", " You smell beer from Hell's Pub",
" You hear your own general reminds you about mission",
" Lever snaps and new one pops up", " Question: Have you played original doom?",
" Your skin turns green for split secound", " Your medikits have medicine for constipation",
" You feel disappointed ", " Floor underneath you cleans up", " You hear Butcher yell: Where's my Cleaver? I got fresh meat to chop", " Your backpack begs for more ammo",
" You wonder why you are here ", " You hear wizard voice: You shall not pass "
Great idea MICu, but posted in wrong thread. This game needs more Easter Eggs and less ArchViles.
Seconded. Really good idea. Maybe even drop one of those messages on every step with 1% chance.
Uh oh. If people start getting good ideas out of the trash can of the forum, that's gotta be a bad sign.
J/k. :P
Unique Lever: The Vertical Stick
I want your revenge.
Pull this lever. From now till when you find the stairs, all the monsters on the floor will know exactly where you are and will take the most direct path to find you. Have fun with the leather studded kisses in the sand.
Quote from: thelaptop on January 13, 2011, 00:15Unique Lever: The Vertical Stick
(sob sob why do i know this) The lyric is 'vertigo stick'.
And it should summon Lady Gaga. Or at least flood the level with
something if you pull it repeatedly.
Quote from: Ander Hammer on February 27, 2011, 12:11And it should summon Lady Gaga. Or at least flood the level with something if you pull it repeatedly.
Oh, god. I'm no fan of Lady Gaga, but I would really laugh my ass off if I see in the next version that this ends happening. Yes, the lever idea implemented, with the effect of spawning a monster based on Lady Gaga.
To be balanced, add a new lever effect with the identical message "The smell of a massacre..." that instagibs you instead of enemies. Do not include this change in the version notes.
From now on, playing on ITYTD move will automatically colour your marine pink. Instead of blood, you leave trails of flowers. Hits are replaced with 'distance hugs' and deaths with 'just remembered they were late for a meeting'. Guns are friendship beads (2d6 damage to meanness). The full ending is unlocked by showing the cyberdemon your Thermonuclear Bomb Protest Sign and accepting his invitation to tea with his best friend Jesus Christ.
Arachnotrons are wussy in melee, give them a touch of death attack that bypasses armor and invulnerability.
Killing the cyberdemon with a melee weapon splits it into two fully healed cyberdemons.
Barons of hell can now pick up and activate nukes.
Splash damage from explosions will now detonate rockets as well as barrels. This includes any in your inventory. The damage stacks.
Megaspheres are now ten times more common, but have a 90% chance of being a trap and spawning up to 8 arch-viles around you.
Vulnerability globes. They tire you out, reduce your health to 1, unload all of your weapons and dump your entire inventory and equipment on the floor. On the upside they can remove cursed armor, but they cease working when less than half of the level's enemies remain.
Paint mod pack. It doesn't increase any stats, but your flaming decal BFG has never looked so cool.
Jumbo med-pack. It heals you up to 200%, but you immediately vomit and are left helpless for ten game seconds. Consuming more than one increases all your speeds by .05 each use.
New unique: Antimatter Bomb. It destroys the entire planet, leaving you floating in space until your invulnerability wears off you and splatter. Partial victory, I guess?
New unique: Home-ing Phase Device. It resets your experience and sends you back to phobos base. It tires you, but isn't destroyed upon use. Unique hoarding time.
Special level: Hell's Lavatory. It's like the lava pits, only with acid and no enemies or rewards. It replaces Hell's Armory with a 50% chance.
Angel of 1000. Expect JC caves by level 150.
Angel of 1. For those with really short coffee breaks. Oh, and the one level is phobos arena.
Angel of Apollo: You begin with a (cursed) nano-modded rocket launcher, red armor and plasteel boots. You may swap armor, but if the set you are wearing is ever completely destroyed you instantly suffocate.
... wait a second, that last one sounds awesome.
I approve of:
- The changes to ITYTD (kids mode!)
- Paint mod packs. I'd use 'em.
- Angel of Apollo. Even if it would be really easy.
- Angel of 1 and 1000. Oh god, JC and nightmare cyberdemon caves.
Why are people approving things in the horrible ideas thread?!
Something must be wrong in the world today...
Here, I'll try to make sure the ideas go back to being horrible:
Angel of Nothing
"This quote left intentionally blank."
This is, quite literally, nothing. Once you accept this challenge you won't be able to do anything. In fact, we'll crash the game FOR you, just to make sure you don't think there's anything to do. Don't press this unless you're too lazy to go back to the main menu.
New enemy: Ghost
Spawns from corpses (chance equivalent to N! respawning), making the corpse unreviveable. Ghost is invisible, phases through solid objects, cannot take damage, and cannot deal damage. Locks on to your position at all times. When it is on your tile, it will make a haunting noise really loudly and say "BOO" in the message screen. Happens on all difficulties.
New consumable: Opium (common, way too common)
Causes you to be unable to die, even if your health hits zero. Vision drops to zero, cannot fire weapons, and you will move randomly (or not at all). You will die instantly if you consume more than one at a time. Lasts for 40 actions (normal time).
Quote from: Game Hunter on February 28, 2011, 22:08New consumable: Opium (common, way too common)
Causes you to be unable to die, even if your health hits zero. Vision drops to zero, cannot fire weapons, and you will move randomly (or not at all). You will die instantly if you consume more than one at a time. Lasts for 40 actions (normal time).
No, this sounds very reasonable. Instead of making the player blind, it'd be more accurate to make every action take twice as long. Then give the player a breathe command and if they go to long forgetting to breathe, they die. It's very important for breathing not to display any messages, so there is no way to tell how long it's been since your last breath.
Quote from: Nameless on February 27, 2011, 18:58Paint mod pack. It doesn't increase any stats, but your flaming decal BFG has never looked so cool.
Better yet: "Red paint mod", which makes your guns fire/armor movespeed THREE times faster/, because you think it's possible! Clap your hands if you believe, indeed.
"Da red wunz go fasta!" :D
Quote from: Kashi on March 01, 2011, 05:17Better yet: "Red paint mod", which makes your guns fire/armor movespeed THREE times faster/, because you think it's possible! Clap your hands if you believe, indeed.
Not right... red armour makes you
slower.
Green, on the other hand...
No, thelaptop, you do not understand.
Red wunz go fasta!
[/Wh40k reference ends here]
I was wondering where that came from...
Mod Tactical Armor so that it turns you red.
Make red armor black instead.
That should fix it.
Also, I'm reasonably sure Kids Mode could be activated in part with some clever typing in some of the lua files. Make enemies bleed flowers and turn back into peaceful humans when shot!
Edit, to avoid double post:
It strikes me that this is a terrible idea, since DoomRL is more rogue-like than a lot of rogue-likes claim, and is further a coffee break rogue-like, but Angel of 100 got me thinking.
I'd kind of like to see Doomband or something similar. Uses DoomRL's combat system, but perhaps with monster difficulty and numbers tweaked, the dungeon perhaps extended, though not to Ao100's extent, and ways provided to go from the 'dungeon' back to town, where you can hoard mods and uniques at your home and spend the bounty plundered from monsters on a new trait, healz and armor repair, or the exorbitantly expensive nuclear plasma gun and firestorm mod that just appeared in the Black (Exotic) Market. Maybe explain it away as the first level of the base being held by your buddies and used to manufacture some equipment.
It'd be kind of nice to dive into a difficult, populous level without worrying as much about conserving health or ammo... playing at a more relaxed pace, in an environment more Angband-like than Rogue-like. It's sort of hard to explain.
Trash Medals. Awarded for doing extremely foolish and downright shameful things.
Turd on a Stick - Awarded when getting killed on dlvl1 at itytd or hntr.
Big Red Button trophy - Awarded for getting killed as a result of pulling the wrong lever in a state of Denmark level. "They told me I shouldn't press that nice juicy looking button, but I just HAD to do it... :("
Avarice medal - Awarded for getting killed with over 5 large meds in your inventory.
Molten tin soldier - Awarded for getting severly hurt or killed as a result of aiming a rev launcher or bfg10k at a square just next to you, with the intention of just shooting in a certain direction.
Golden bomb belt - Awarded for killing yourself with a nuke or angel arm on a level other than 25 and 26 without invunerability.
Quote from: Mrazerty on March 04, 2011, 11:38Avarice medal - Awarded for getting killed with over 5 large meds in your inventory.
Oh geez, the number of these that I'd have would be downright shameful, I'm sure.
Dr. Strangelove Badge: Died to a nuke playing Angel of Impatience
Trophy of Clumsiness: Died on a floor that had already been cleared
Quote from: Mrazerty on March 04, 2011, 11:38Molten tin soldier - Awarded for getting severly hurt or killed as a result of aiming a rev launcher or bfg10k at a square just next to you, with the intention of just shooting in a certain direction.
Been there done that, on level 100... up and murdered myself for apparently no reason. It'll only happen once though.
Quote from: Game Hunter on March 04, 2011, 12:03Trophy of Clumsiness: Died on a floor that had already been cleared
Ugh, done that too and unfortunately will probably do it again.
Quote from: Game Hunter on March 04, 2011, 12:03Dr. Strangelove Badge: Died to a nuke playing Angel of Impatience
Guilty.
Angel of RNG
Just one level, Phobos base entry. After completing that the game rolls 1d100. On 100, you win, anything else you lose, try again.
Quote from: AStranger on March 13, 2011, 15:39Angel of RNG
Just one level, Phobos base entry. After completing that the game rolls 1d100. On 100, you win, anything else you lose, try again.
I thought it was called Angel of Pacifism.
Quote from: Simon-v on March 13, 2011, 17:46I thought it was called Angel of Pacifism.
It seems to be Angel of Abbreviated Pacifism. >.<
Angel of Vileness
Enemies on all difficulty levels respawn like N! (perhaps slower on lower ones, perhaps not)
whenever an enemy is revived it gets a promotion to the next enemy.
define next enemy either within class (human-sarge-captain-commando ; knight-baron-bruiser-Cyber; soul-demon-cacodemon-PE; arach-revenant-mancubus-vile) or by experience value, breaking ties with the name. would have to do something about the corpseless enemies.
I would totally play a challenge mode with potential cyberdemons on floor three. Come on, you could totally abuse formers to load yourself up with plasma cells and kick his butt around corners. :D
Angel of Illiteracy
Bullets go dun what? Numbers are for nerds, not tough guys like you! I hope you didn't need to keep track of your health, exp, durability, ammo, floor level, thermonuclear countdowns ...
Angel of Dr Seuss
Instead of fighting demons old
We fight the cats from up above.
With hats so big they block the sky
And grinch so green it makes us cry.
For now we send DoomGuy to fight
And kill the kitties left and right.
Assembly - sheep launcher
rocket launcher + 2 agility and 1 bulk
firing time: 1.5s
accuracy: +6
reload: 2.5s
when the rocket hits something it either reflects like a ray or explodes for maybe 8d8, slightly larger radius also.
Source: Worms
Quote from: rchandra on April 11, 2011, 19:46Assembly - sheep launcher
rocket launcher + 2 agility and 1 bulk
firing time: 1.5s
accuracy: +6
reload: 2.5s
when the rocket hits something it either reflects like a ray or explodes for maybe 8d8, slightly larger radius also.
Source: Worms
Make a Holy Hand Grenade and I'll worship you xD
Holy Hand Grenade of Antioch
Consumable
Deploys like a nuke, 7 second countdown (my estimate: 1, 2, 5, 3sir, 3, toss, cover, boom)
Damage like a Hellwave pack, however you are not immune.
and I feel the need to explicitly point out the BAA mods for making the sheep launcher.
Rather than it acting like a timed hellwave pack, why not just have it do damage to all non-wall objects in the blast radius? After all, it's not the wall's fault that it was built by a heretical demon hellbent for leather on conquering the Earth.
Okay, here's one.
Neural Stunner
Great, just what I need, a child's plaything.
Exotic Pistol
(1d1) [7/7]
Plasma Cells
Special: Can't actually kill things, but will cause them to stop acting for 10 seconds.
AoPc just found it's new best friend.
Quote from: raekuul on April 23, 2011, 22:19Neural Stunner
YES YES YES
Commander Keen is actually Doom canon!
Sort of!
He shows up!
Quote from: Deathwind on April 25, 2011, 00:08AoPc just found it's new best friend.
Unfortunately, you can't fire
anything in AoPc.
I know, because I'm one of the few people who picked up the Combat Translocator and went "OMG I can shift mobs away!"
Except it wasn't meant to be...
Quote from: thelaptop on April 28, 2011, 04:23Unfortunately, you can't fire anything in AoPc.
I know, because I'm one of the few people who picked up the Combat Translocator and went "OMG I can shift mobs away!"
Except it wasn't meant to be...
Sounds like a bug to me.
That's sort of why it's in Horrible Ideas and not in New Weapons. The only times it would be useful are:
Angel of Pacifism (Can't use any weaponry there, including minimal-damage ones)
Unholy Cathedral (Can only use melee weapons there)
Subbosses (Okay, yeah, it's useful there)
Cyberdemon (By this point, you may as well just kill him rather than stunning him)
Angel of Rap
Yo', you da meanest muvafucka so dey sent you to da hellz! You have ur ghetto pistol and ur bitchin' uzi! But you hav' had too many (taco) bells and ur' feelin' 2 woozy...
The sequel to DoomRL is announced to be DoomIRL. Permadeath takes on a whole new meaning and the graphics have never been more ultra realistic. Unfortunately the game could not be made turn based, citing 'inability to manipulate the fabric of spacetime'. Space flight and Doomguy suit included in the $1,000,000 dollar package.
Quote from: ParaSait on March 04, 2011, 11:38Trash Medals. Awarded for doing extremely foolish and downright shameful things.
Turd on a Stick - Awarded when getting killed on dlvl1 at itytd or hntr.
Big Red Button trophy - Awarded for getting killed as a result of pulling the wrong lever in a state of Denmark level. "They told me I shouldn't press that nice juicy looking button, but I just HAD to do it... :("
Avarice medal - Awarded for getting killed with over 5 large meds in your inventory.
Molten tin soldier - Awarded for getting severly hurt or killed as a result of aiming a rev launcher or bfg10k at a square just next to you, with the intention of just shooting in a certain direction.
Golden bomb belt - Awarded for killing yourself with a nuke or angel arm on a level other than 25 and 26 without invunerability.
More Trash Medals:
Headshotted: 98%+ damage received in one turn
Headshotted Twice: 198%+ damage received in one turn
Cause and Effect: Shot a barrel right next to you
Cause and Effect Redux: Shot a barrel right next to you, and was also in range of 2 other barrels next to you
Poor Route Planning: Envirosuit runs out while surrounded on all tiles by lava and/or acid
Cocky: Die while berzerked
Almost Doesn't Count: Die with a consumable or powerup on the ground 0-1 tiles from you
Almost Doesn't Count Redux: Die 1 tile from a megasphere
Listen To Yourself: pull a lever marked as 'harmful' by intuition
Because You Can: Punch every boss with your fists.
Quote from: Patashu on April 30, 2011, 02:41The sequel to DoomRL is announced to be DoomIRL. Permadeath takes on a whole new meaning and the graphics have never been more ultra realistic. Unfortunately the game could not be made turn based, citing 'inability to manipulate the fabric of spacetime'. Space flight and Doomguy suit included in the $1,000,000 dollar package.
More Trash Medals:
Headshotted: 98%+ damage received in one turn
Headshotted Twice: 198%+ damage received in one turn
Cause and Effect: Shot a barrel right next to you
Cause and Effect Redux: Shot a barrel right next to you, and was also in range of 2 other barrels next to you
Poor Route Planning: Envirosuit runs out while surrounded on all tiles by lava and/or acid
Cocky: Die while berzerked
Almost Doesn't Count: Die with a consumable or powerup on the ground 0-1 tiles from you
Almost Doesn't Count Redux: Die 1 tile from a megasphere
Listen To Yourself: pull a lever marked as 'harmful' by intuition
Because You Can: Punch every boss with your fists.
Got Headshotted in the turn in which I large medpacked myself in the Mortuary
Got Poor Route Planning and died from it in the Lava Pits while carrying a HPD
Definitely got Almost Doesn't Count a few times
Because You Can's an achievement, not a trash medal...
In terms of new horrible ideas:
Angel of Explodium
Good news: You start with a fully loaded missile launcher and 24 rockets rather than a pistol and 24 bullets.
Bad news: All formers of any stripe have their weapons replaced with some form of rocket launcher. FHum gets microlauncher, FSer gets the original, FCap gets the tactical launcher and FCom a T3/B2 missile launcher. Also, every level is "Khe he he, this will be a mess..." including the special levels, the Hellgate, Phobos Arena etc.
If items were indestructible, that idea would be... well, actually, horrible in a completely different (but much more fun to play :) way.
Yeah, it is more of an achievement, I just think it's hilarious to think of a doomguy's judgement lapsing, waltzing right up to a boss and punching him a few times :P
Corollary to angel of explodium + indestructible items - how about explosive items?
Quote from: Patashu on May 01, 2011, 01:55Yeah, it is more of an achievement, I just think it's hilarious to think of a doomguy's judgement lapsing, waltzing right up to a boss and punching him a few times :P
Choo choo cha-boogie. (http://tinyurl.com/2xy53e)
Quote from: Patashu on April 30, 2011, 02:41More Trash Medals:
Headshotted: 98%+ damage received in one turn
Headshotted Twice: 198%+ damage received in one turn
Cause and Effect: Shot a barrel right next to you
Cause and Effect Redux: Shot a barrel right next to you, and was also in range of 2 other barrels next to you
Poor Route Planning: Envirosuit runs out while surrounded on all tiles by lava and/or acid
Cocky: Die while berzerked
Almost Doesn't Count: Die with a consumable or powerup on the ground 0-1 tiles from you
Almost Doesn't Count Redux: Die 1 tile from a megasphere
Listen To Yourself: pull a lever marked as 'harmful' by intuition
Because You Can: Punch every boss with your fists.
These sound incredibly fun. I actually want them.
Angel of Revenge
You can't actively attack, but you automaticly counter-attack back with your current weapon if hit by an enemy.
That sounds oddly like how I play Battle Network 3...
Angel of Hallucination
Too many magic mushrooms make doomguy one confused bugger.
In this mode, it's truly a roguelike -- you can only tell that there is something on the ground, but you don't know what it is.
And you can tell something is after you, but you don't know what it is that is attacking you...
Quote from: thelaptop on May 04, 2011, 09:25Angel of Hallucination
Too many magic mushrooms make doomguy one confused bugger.
In this mode, it's truly a roguelike -- you can only tell that there is something on the ground, but you don't know what it is.
And you can tell something is after you, but you don't know what it is that is attacking you...
Oh the fond memories from my Nethack days...
Quote from: Game Hunter on March 04, 2011, 12:03Oh geez, the number of these that I'd have would be downright shameful, I'm sure.
Dr. Strangelove Badge: Died to a nuke playing Angel of Impatience
Trophy of Clumsiness: Died on a floor that had already been cleared
Did the second one once when I flooded the level with lava.
Another time in an earlier version I pulled a lever to try an heal myself, but it set off all the barrals on the level including two in the small room I was in.(I had shoved them as far away as I could but the room was small enough I was still fried in the blasts.)
Angel of Matyrdom (AoHu + AoP)
You are human (AoHu). You want ascendency amongst the gods and thus want to be pure (AoP). Globes and all the other what not are impure -- you will purge the hellspawn through conviction alone.
When you eventually succeed, you will be remembered forever as the Matyr that took on hell itself.
Angel of RNG
You're probably suffering from a severe Alzheimer. What else can explain all these things in your backpack you've never put there?!
Every time you descend to a new level, RNG kindly provides you with a brand new inventory. Only your equipped stuff remains the same.
Barrels of water!
Not a very damaging fluid, but these are under pressure. They deal greatly reduced damage/extra knockback like rocket jumps, and have a chance to leave water like acid barrels do. They can also knockback barrels.
Angel of Long Travel
It's about the journey, not the destination.
A prequel mini-game about DoomGuy's flight to Phobos. Takes two weeks of real time.
Shesh, now THAT's one "so-bad-that-I-want-to-see-it-making-in" idea.
BTW. Hi, Pass, good to see you around.
Angel of Age
Right now, you're in the peak of health! Unfortunately, fighting your way through hell is making you feel tired, weary and old.
You begin by selecting 15 perks. Every two floors, you lose one (while still respecting prerequisites). Every three floors, you either lose an inventory slot, dropping whatever you were holding in that slot onto the ground.
This has been posted many times in the real challenge idea thread.
Quote from: Silhar on June 27, 2011, 06:43Shesh, now THAT's one "so-bad-that-I-want-to-see-it-making-in" idea.
Completing that challenge unlocks:
Angel of False AlertThe trip to Phobos was dull -- but not as dull as the following tour of duty. Twelve months of pure mind-numbing tedium. You hate the UAC: nothing ever happens there, and this time is no exception.
Quote from: Passionario on July 05, 2011, 01:21Completing that challenge unlocks:
Angel of False Alert
The trip to Phobos was dull -- but not as dull as the following tour of duty. Twelve months of pure mind-numbing tedium. You hate the UAC: nothing ever happens there, and this time is no exception.
Good grief! I'm assuming you are meaning 12 months of real-time?
And Doomguy needs to eat at least every 8 hours, otherwise he dies and you have to start it ALL over again.
There is a large med-pack lying here. Suddenly a master mimic attacks you! The master mimic hits you. You can't move! The master mimic hits you. The master mimic hits you. Your red armor is damaged! The master mimic hits you. The master mimic hits you. You die...
Quote from: Passionario on July 05, 2011, 01:21Completing that challenge unlocks:
Angel of False Alert
The trip to Phobos was dull -- but not as dull as the following tour of duty. Twelve months of pure mind-numbing tedium. You hate the UAC: nothing ever happens there, and this time is no exception.
And completing it with 100% kills gives you Postal Bloodied Cross!
And making that comment gives you the Bloody Hilarious Cross.
Angel of DOOOOOOOOOM
You're DOOMED! DOOMED I say! You're condemned to pass through Hell without the benefits of caution! On the plus side, you're always running. On the other hand, no zerk, no invulnerability, no envirosuits...
Alternate Angel of Doom:
Only one trait - Badass. AoMC and AoI rules. Only Pistol, Shotgun, Double Shotgun, Super Shotgun, Chaingun, Plasma Rifle, Rocket Launcher, and BFG9000 can spawn.
I can't remember, could you Dual Pistols in Doom 2?
Nope.
Angel of AWESOME
Every action you take, and I mean every, will cause an explosion somewhere you in your close proximity
Even enemy actions cause thise, and enemies act even more agressive than before and shoot faster! however they have -5 to hit.
Sounds like something Egoraptor would do.
AwesomeRL. "Yeah! Killing demons with a chaingun and there's a chainsaw! Rip and tear! Wait, what the fu-, why's it like alphabet soup in here? Aww this is turn-based it sucks! Huh? I can shoot around corners with a shotgun, yeah bi-! Can't see me can ya? I'll just step around this corner and, oh God barrels! *explosions* I'm the Random Number God and I'mma fu- you up every chance I get. Aww, this game cheats!"
This waste of text was brought to you by the letters A, V, M and 0.
Quote from: General Patton on July 13, 2011, 18:58Sounds like something Egoraptor would do.
AwesomeRL. "Yeah! Killing demons with a chaingun and there's a chainsaw! Rip and tear! Wait, what the fu-, why's it like alphabet soup in here? Aww this is turn-based it sucks! Huh? I can shoot around corners with a shotgun, yeah bi-! Can't see me can ya? I'll just step around this corner and, oh God barrels! *explosions* I'm the Random Number God and I'mma fu- you up every chance I get. Aww, this game cheats!"
This waste of text was brought to you by the letters A, V, M and 0.
(http://img845.imageshack.us/img845/2152/ffreeree.png)
It's just like one of my Japanese animes! :3
Angel of Presbyopia
Instead of being able to see what's near you, you are good at seeing beyond. So, objects within 5 tiles of you are not visible, but you can see farther overall.
(We need to resurrect the horrible ideas thread as a matter of principle. >.<)
Ammunition-Free Weapons!
Sponge Gun - 1d2, knockback as though 10d20
Boomerang - hits every enemy between Doomguy and Target Location twice, hits Target Location once, 1d4
Rock - 1d4, radius 2
Gun Hat - 1d6, gives armor +3
Flamethrower - 3d8
Boxing Gloves - 1d2, knockback as though 10d20
Shield - 1d4, gives armor +3, reduces personal knockback
Gauntlets - 2d4
Shovel - 2d6
Club - 2d8
Sword - 3d6
Quote from: raekuul on October 30, 2011, 12:30Rock - 1d4, radius 2
Is if it's one of Phobos rocks, i'm surprised whole place is still in one piece after all that happened there. :)
Angel of OCD
You must walk two tiles before you can fire, and even then, you can only fire once when it is time to fire, after which you have to walk two more tiles before you can fire again.
Bomblet Launcher
Fires a cluster bomb. After exploding, 6 bomblets fly off at random angles from 1-4 tiles, and then explode. Those create 6 subbomblets each, which also fly off at random angles 0-2 tiles. Those subbomblets generate 6 subsubbomblets, which also fly off at random angles, 0-1 tiles.
Barrel Launcher
A giant cannon that you reload by standing next to a barrel and loading it in. Only holds one barrel at a time. Kinda inaccurate since the ballistic properties of a barrel are fucking retarded.
Sonic Shotgun: Double Shotty dealing Plasma Damage instead of Shrapnel Damage.
Ice Axe: 7d7 Melee weapon, altfire stops visible enemies for 2 seconds (but tires out Doomguy)
Tormuse! difficulty
All enemies are replaced with pain elementals.
Pain elementals summon pain elementals instead of lost souls - even when they die.
The stairs only appear when everything is dead.
beat this
Quote from: Uranium on November 03, 2011, 16:07Tormuse! difficulty
All enemies are replaced with pain elementals.
Pain elementals summon pain elementals instead of lost souls - even when they die.
The stairs only appear when everything is dead.
beat this
"beat this" as in "attempt to suggest something more horrible"? :P
Quote from: ParaSait on November 03, 2011, 17:18"beat this" as in "attempt to suggest something more horrible"? :P
Breast implants.
What do I win?
Three angry Cyberdemons.
Two former humans.
...and a Doomguy without a BFG!
Anyhow, here's a really bad idea.
Silver Bullets
Alternate ammunition for 10mm weapons
Instantly kills humans
...did you just doomify the 12 Days of Christmas?!
And I hit post before I spread my glorious ideas :P
The Hoe of Destruction
"I am the Avatar, paragon of virtue and exploding gardening implements!"
Damage - 5d7
Alt-fire allows you to hit enemies two squares away from you, but only at 4d7 damage.
Deals fire damage.
Has a one in five chance of creating a tac. rocket launcher explosion on the enemy you hit with alt-fire.
Quote from: raekuul on November 05, 2011, 07:41...and a Doomguy without a BFG!
Sweet! You caught what I wanted to do. =P
A terminal where DoomGuy can play DoomRL on it. Time outside still passes as usual, so DoomGuy can still get hit outside...
A true demonstration of the extensible nature of DoomRL. =O
Solar Gun - 4d5 fire-damage shotgun, self-recharging ammo.
Sunny Charge - Inventory item. Use it to go from Tired to Cautious.
Eclipse Whip - 3d3x3 plasma damage pistol.
Bright Sword - 9d3 melee weapon, fire damage.
And another thing...
Pretentiously Named Weapon
81d1 plasma damage [200/200]
Consumes 50 Power Cells/shot
I should probably say something witty here.
Great Numerical Randomiser (GNR)
Damage: (1d2)(1d2)(1d2)(1d2)(1d2)(1d2)(1d2)(1d2)(1d2)
Ammo: 10 Max HP
Text: How lucky do YOU feel?
Quote from: Uranium on November 05, 2011, 08:04...did you just doomify the 12 Days of Christmas?!
On the 12th level of Deimos
DoomRL gave to me
12 berserk packs
11 cyberdemons
10 shambler's shambling
9 barons blasting
8 demons roaring
7 lost souls flying
6 imps a-firing
5 revenants
4 hell knights
3 cacodemons
2 former humans
and a doomguy without BFG
...it was just too silly to resist :D
Angel of Angels
Just like a regular Angel weapon restriction game, except you can choose which weapon or weapon class you wish to restrict yourself to (any at all). The catch is that all enemies also use the weapon you use. For example, if you choose regular shotguns, or the shotgun class as in AoSh, every single enemy uses the regular shotgun/the shotgun class (i suppose they could be randomly distributed, or distributed according to hierachy IE former humans get regular shotgun, mancubi get power-modded assault shotguns) as well. Yes, even the lost souls, barons of hell, Cyberdemons and what have you.
Quote from: Zalminen on November 19, 2011, 14:15On the 12th level of Deimos
DoomRL gave to me
12 berserk packs
11 cyberdemons
10 shambler's shambling
9 barons blasting
8 demons roaring
7 lost souls flying
6 imps a-firing
5 revenants
4 hell knights
3 cacodemons
2 former humans
and a doomguy without BFG
...it was just too silly to resist :D
I vote Game Hunter record this in song (full version, so the whole counting up from first day till the twelfth) and put it on youtube for all of us to loop. =D
Quote from: thelaptop on November 19, 2011, 23:53I vote Game Hunter record this in song (full version, so the whole counting up from first day till the twelfth) and put it on youtube for all of us to loop. =D
That would be win. A doomrl Christmas!
On-topic: It should be possible to implement one or more of the ideas in this thread if what i've heard about modding becoming easier and more accessible is true. That would also be win.
Silent Glaive
Pickup Text: What a surprise.
Inventory Text: By the time it's noticed, it's already killed...
Melee Weapon
7d5
Special: Ignores armor rating
Altfire: 7d4 to everything in melee range, but tires you out. Can't use if tired/running.
grenade launcher
Pickup Text: --
Inventory Text: --
Assembly: (TBB) Rocket Launcher
Effect: Rockets stick to where you aim them. They detonate after 3.0 seconds of game time (30 turns.)
Fat Man
Pickup Text: Not even a mutant behemoth can stand up to this baby...
Inventory Text: I wonder what this red button does?
Unique Weapon
Mini Nuke Launcher (ammunition found on weapon only)
25d25 plasma damage, radius 25
Alt Fire: Destroys the weapon and nukes the level instantly. Must be loaded.
Doesn't the fat man belong in the normal item suggestion thread?
Quote from: thelaptop on November 19, 2011, 23:53I vote Game Hunter record this in song (full version, so the whole counting up from first day till the twelfth) and put it on youtube for all of us to loop. =D
Diddo laptop
Oh Game Hunter....
Spiderdemon weapon drop.
Chainshotgun
Pickup Text: This is it. You can't get anything more ridiculous than this, folks.
Inventory Text: A fully automatic belt-fed shotgun! Hell must have some pretty crazy engineers.
Artifact
Automatic Shotgun: Affected by all chainfire *and* shotgun perks. Allowed in AoSh.
Capacity: 80 rounds
(9d3)x4 shrapnel damage, focused shotgun blast
Alt Fire: Chainfire
I can currently confirm that the Spider Mastermind will not be dropping anything of that sort.
Why else is this in the Horrible Ideas thread?
Because the weapon is horribly overpowered? Besides, what's the point of dropping a weapon that the player won't have time to use?
That was a rhetorical question :p
Skilled is the shottyman that can assemble and load a specialized ammo belt into his chainshotgun in the time it takes to move a step.
Nah, it'd be better if you had to load all the shells in, one at a time.
AoRa comes to mind. ;))
what about a gattling shotgun, like what they tried to build on the show 'Sons of Guns'? now that would be sweet.
You assemble Plasma Rifle with Thermonuclear Bomb. Rapid fire nukes instead of energy. You win the game.
What?
In some other universe, that would be an awesome idea. Sadly, in this universe it would fry Doomguy as well as his enemies.
The Destructinator
Plasma Rifle + FONS
Plasma Damage
(5d5)x7
((5-25)x7) -> 35-175
Max Clip Size 40
Regenerates 1 shot/step
Altfire: Railgun Blast (damage is 35d5, consumes 40 shots)
Altreload: Trigun
Drop the O for a B, up the number of shots, clip down to 30, alt-reload to overload and adjust the damage a bit and it could work.
The Destructinator
Plasma Rifle + FNSB
Plasma Damage
(5d5)x10
((5-25)x10) -> 50-250
Max Clip Size 30
Regenerates 1 shot/step
Altfire: Railgun Blast (damage is 50d5, consumes 30 shots)
Altreload: Overcharge Nuke
Better? I preferred it the old way since it made you use all four Exotic Mod Packs in order to get a massively OP weapon
Everyone keeps asking about automatic shotguns, but that's what the Jackhammer is already supposed to be;
anyway, my horrible idea:
Weapon Jamming & Barrel Overheating: occasionally firing attempts fail and you are forced to retry the shot, or even reload
(might be a desirable feature to have for certain mods, actually)
Quote from: raekuul on January 10, 2012, 21:58The Destructinator
Plasma Rifle + FNSB
Plasma Damage
(5d5)x10
((5-25)x10) -> 50-250
Max Clip Size 30
Regenerates 1 shot/step
Altfire: Railgun Blast (damage is 50d5, consumes 30 shots)
Altreload: Overcharge Nuke
Better? I preferred it the old way since it made you use all four Exotic Mod Packs in order to get a massively OP weapon
I was meaning to adjust it to make it a viable option to add to the game, now all it needs is firing times that balance it.
The first one was an overpowered gun but you can't put an onyx pack on a weapon.
On the one hand, yes, it would be nice to see some of the Horrible Ideas balanced for inclusion... on the other hand, just how powerful should a Plasma Rifle be with a Sniper Pack (guaranteed hit), a Nano Pack (regenerating Ammo but can't manually reload), and a Firestorm Pack (+1 shots fired); all three of which are incredibly rare (and one of which you can only get one of anyway?)
And on that note:
W
Cavern Worm
100 HP
No Armor
"This was a UAC experiment gone horribly right. At first it ate the Demons like it was supposed to. Then it decided it liked the taste of Humans as well."
Instantly moves in a straight line until it hits a wall, eating everything in its path for 300d1 damage (treat Invulnerable players and items and barrels and fluids as walls). Standing a knight's move away from it should keep you safe long enough to hurt it (it moves on one of the eight directions, not along an aim path). Is inactive until within the player's Line of Sight.
Guaranteed to drop a mod pack upon defeat.
F
Former ninja
30 HP
1 armor
"A zombified UED specialist in the field of assassinations."
The only enemy to actually make an effort to dodge by sidestepping. On the other hand, he is a melee fighter.
Armed with a combat knife. Drops: combat knife. (what did you expect? a katana and a smoke bomb?)
. . .
. . .
Armed with a katana. Drops katana(3d5) and smoke bomb :D
Quote from: snowstorm on January 15, 2012, 04:56katana(3d5)
This in particular sounds very sexy.
KK, implement this as an exotic pl0x. :P
Quote from: ParaSait on January 15, 2012, 06:16This in particular sounds very sexy.
KK, implement this as an exotic pl0x. :P
We need moar melee weapons.
The problem with Melee Weapons is that they all do the exact same thing, with only a few variations on special ability. You've got the Combat Knife, which you walk into enemies to attack with. Then there's the Chainsaw, which... you walk into enemies to attack with. Then there's the Butcher's Cleaver, which is my personal favorite because it allows you to surprise people when... you walk into enemies to attack with it. Then there's the Loningus Spear and Azrael's Scythe, both of which have cool alternative abilities, but... you walk into enemies to attack with it. The Dragonslayer is THE game-breaking weapon to end all other game-breaking weapons, and the best part? You're practically invulnerable as you walk into enemies to attack with it.
Yeah.
Berserk! has plenty of interesting melee attacks, and I can imagine bringing some of them over to DoomRL (when tied to specific weapons) could be interesting.
Do we finally get one where we don't have to march (or sprint, as the case may be) into a bunch of monsters with ranged attacks?
[Monster's Name: The Devourer]
[Monster's Apperance: D]
[Monster's Armor: N/A]
[Monster's Description: "Nothing has disgusted you more than this ugly motherfucker!"]
_____________________________________________________________________
Right out of Diablo II, would devour corpses and them spit them at the enemies. (In this place, at YOU!)
The corpses explode when they hit the player or walls, making a 4 tile radius of blood and rotten gibs.
When player gets directly hit by it, he gets plenty of damage and is poisoned for 10 turns, losing 1HP each turn.
If player doesn't get directly hit, but is caught in the radius, he gets confused for 10 turns.
The monster can't use melee attacks, the monster likely swallows the corpse inside and lets it... Rot or... MELT?!
Quote from: raekuul on January 15, 2012, 15:46Do we finally get one where we don't have to march (or sprint, as the case may be) into a bunch of monsters with ranged attacks?
Well, if you aren't walking into enemies to attack with it, how can it be called a melee weapon?
Quote from: Thexare on January 16, 2012, 02:08Well, if you aren't walking into enemies to attack with it, how can it be called a melee weapon?
Grappling hook.
Quote from: raekuul on January 15, 2012, 15:46Do we finally get one where we don't have to march (or sprint, as the case may be) into a bunch of monsters with ranged attacks?
But we already have such weapons! They are called "ranged".
Fighter's Swordchucks
"So illogical it hurts your brain at the mere thought"
Damage: 4d5x2
Type: Physical
Alt-Fire: Glorious Chainsaw Method (As in: "Make your swords become like things unto chainsaws") - Deals maximum piercing damage to all enemies in melee range. Tires after use.
Personal defener
mod (to armor or weapon)
mod can be applied only once to armor/weapon. After that, it installs cannon which shots one bullet 3d3 (ammo (mm) takes from the inventory) after each action into the closest enemy. If applied to weapon, it shoots from the second hand, type of damage is based on the weapon.
*beep: since now all plasma damage melts walls into lava!*
Angel of Superlative Confidence.
Forget about those weird episodes. Armed with a random assortment of weapons, you take on the Bruiser Brothers, Cyberdemon and the Spider Mastermind one after another.
If you somehow manage a full win on this, congratulations!
Quote from: thelaptop on January 28, 2012, 21:53Angel of Superlative Confidence.
Forget about those weird episodes. Armed with a random assortment of weapons, you take on the Bruiser Brothers, Cyberdemon and the Spider Mastermind one after another.
If you somehow manage a full win on this, congratulations!
Khe he he, this will be such a
mess...
Unique: Slayer's Blade
"Have fun."
Damage: 5d4
Accuracy: auto-hit, 100%
Unmoddable.
If you have the Slayer's Blade in your equipped slot (or prepared slot with MMB), you cannot berserk. At all. Berserk packs won't work, Berserker won't proc and if you're berserked when you pick the SB up, you calm down.
However, whenever you score a hit on an enemy, you get a +1 to melee ToDam. This accumulates, so you may very well be dealing 5d4+30 when you're fighting the Angel of Death.
Every three actions you take that do not involve hitting an enemy or being hit in melee by an enemy, you lose one melee ToDam (does not drain any melee damage boost from Brute).
As an added bonus, whenever you have a ToDam bonus that is above 20, you will leave pools of blood wherever you walk.
Quote from: Uranium on January 29, 2012, 06:29Unique: Slayer's Blade
"Have fun."
Damage: 5d4
Accuracy: auto-hit, 100%
Unmoddable.
If you have the Slayer's Blade in your equipped slot (or prepared slot with MMB), you cannot berserk. At all. Berserk packs won't work, Berserker won't proc and if you're berserked when you pick the SB up, you calm down.
However, whenever you score a hit on an enemy, you get a +1 to melee ToDam. This accumulates, so you may very well be dealing 5d4+30 when you're fighting the Angel of Death.
Every three actions you take that do not involve hitting an enemy or being hit in melee by an enemy, you lose one melee ToDam (does not drain any melee damage boost from Brute).
As an added bonus, whenever you have a ToDam bonus that is above 20, you will leave pools of blood wherever you walk.
Great for pain elemental cave farming! ;)
Kornel As A Boss:
If you manage to invulnera-nuke JC you would fight Kornel. He zaps you with a Hax Gun that hits for insane damage and rewrites the code of your armour to be gradually worse and eventaully have 0 protetion, and also edits your stats until you suck. He also summons armies of monsters who all wear Angelic Armor [P3T3A3B3]. Occasionally he raises his arms and you must move, for a turn later the spot you were standing on will be cleared, causing instadeath if you're still there. He has 666 HP and teleports senselessly around. If you nuke Kornel you would die while recieving the message "Kornel laughs!" -- "Nae points, PRICK!" (In reference to Still Game). The mortem would thusly say "<playername> got NAE POINTS, PRICK on level 10 of Hell" and the history of player would be like
X showed that it can outsmart even JC.
Y got HAXED by Kornel.
Z got NAE POINTS, PRICK!
(Mods please edit this if my language is not permitted... Although searching for the forum rules turns up no results and people swear all the time, ha.)
New Challenge mode: Angel of BFG.
You start off with a BFG9000 and some cells and you're only allowed to use BFG weapons. :D
Quote from: Uranium on November 03, 2011, 16:07Tormuse! difficulty
All enemies are replaced with pain elementals.
Pain elementals summon pain elementals instead of lost souls - even when they die.
The stairs only appear when everything is dead.
beat this
Hmm... Could be doable as long as there's a way to gib the Pain Elementals. (Since gibbing them stops them from spawning Lost Souls when they die) The biggest hurdle would be getting past Dlevel 1, but if there are enough Pain Elementals to level you up to level 3 and get Berserker trait, a combat knife might be enough to do it.
Quote from: Tormuse on February 06, 2012, 12:05New Challenge mode: Angel of BFG.
You start off with a BFG9000 and some cells and you're only allowed to use BFG weapons. :D
And knowing you, you'd get Yet Another Asskicking Marine out of it on your first try :p
Quote from: Uranium on November 03, 2011, 16:07Tormuse! difficulty
All enemies are replaced with pain elementals.
Pain elementals summon pain elementals instead of lost souls - even when they die.
The stairs only appear when everything is dead.
beat this
Actually, the easiest mode, since Pain Elementals don't do damage on their own.
Quote from: ZZ on February 06, 2012, 15:21Actually, the easiest mode, since Pain Elementals don't do damage on their own.
And because it's impossible to kill them all, because they just spawn more, also impossible to complete :>
Angel of BFG sounds like fun but I think you would need to start with a nuclear BFG 9000, arena prize would be a normal one and some cells (or maybe just a bulk mod or two and a power battery).
Floating Demonfish
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Just when you thought it couldn't get any worse, Hell decided to start throwing cute threats at you in addition to the real threats that are lurking about.
50 HP
0 Armor
Basically a tougher version of Lost Soul
New medal: Lava Elemental's balls
Awarded for clearing the Lava Pits without taking damage. (Well, he's described as a "big ball of fire" after all) ;)
Booby trap
Appearance: + (+ when set)
Lays down an innocent looking item, but if anything walks over it, explodes for 7d7 fire damage in a radius of 3. Can be used to gift-drop when set.
Laptop Computer (with DoomRL installed)
"Yo dawg, I heard you like DoomRL..."
using it will waste lots of time, produces a randomly generated mortem and some effect
secretly affected by player name (Tormuse, 2DeviationsOut: invulnerable, Kornel: ???)
Nerf Pack
unique modpack, spawns in Lab Cache
works as opposite of power mod but also eliminates all knockback
(great for Storm Bolter on MSs build, but RNG guarantees it would spawn when you really want something else...)
Angel of Randomness
You love chance, you are addicted to games of chance, you throw dice whenever you see them.
All enemies and items can show up at any level, bosses are randomly switched and have random HP
Chensaw
Pickup Description: I'm already in hell, what's a few thousand more bullets?
Inventory Description: This chainsaw has decals on it from something that seems like it was from another life...
Damage: 5d6
Special: Free Zerk on pickup (first pickup only)
Altfire: Defensive mode - bullets (but ONLY bullets) are reflected back to the shooter until you do anything other than just stand there (including taking damage)
Ensui
Pickup Description: DAMN this thing is COLD!
Inventory Description: The sword of ice. Too bad you can't bring out its full potential.
Damage: 5d5
Special: Grants 80% fire resistance and 60% plasma resistance while actively equipped (that is, you only get the resistances if you're actively attacking with it - having it in the prepared slot gives you jack squat). Does not stack with Malicious Blades.
Angel of Modern FPS Games
-All damage multiplied by 5
-If you can avoid damage for 5 seconds, you begin regenerating health
-Player can only run for three moves before becoming tired
-You can only fire three times in a row before you become ridiculously inaccurate
-Pistol is replaced with Colt M1911
-Any unique pistol is replaced with DESERT EAGLE because IT'S A DESERT EAGLE
-Combat Shotgun is replaced with SPAS-12
-Double Shotgun (because nobody gives double shotguns names in modern FPSs) is now called double-barrelled shotgun
-Chaingun replaced with M16
-Minigun removed because it isn't realistic enough
-All weapons that use cells removed because they aren't realistic enough
-Bruisers, Cyberdemon and Spider Mastermind replaced with Generic Russian Villain That Has Done Something Evil Involving WMDs #500
-All powerups removed because they aren't realistic enough
-You can only reach John Carmack by donating $15 to Chaosforge.
-You can only receive JC's ending by donating another $15.
-Want to play on Nightmare? $15 please.
-Want AoMFPS in graphical mode? $15 please.
Quote from: Uranium on March 04, 2012, 09:16Angel of Modern FPS Games
Apart from the last few points involving money, this smells like a mod waiting to be made!
O.o
An invisibility sphere that allows you to wander around unnoticed. If you hit a monster, it notices you, but has -4 to hit.
Great for Angels of Berserk and Pacifist.
if 4 barrel shotgun was rejected
then maybe a 10 barrel one will be accepted
Invis-sphere? Yes I say, but maybe not in this implementation, and some of the monsters should still be able to see you under the invis.
I can't believe this topic has to be necro'd.
Special Stopwatch
Usable item (once if random drop/exotic, perhaps more than once as a special reward for a level (that doesn't exist yet))
OR
Powerup (soulsphere/invul/megasphere level?)
A fancy pocketwatch befitting a gentleman or lady.
On use, makes a certain set number of Doomguy's actions take 0s - no monsters can move or attack.
Items can be picked up as normal. Optionally, no ranged attacks launched will actually fire until time re-starts, as they all happen in the same instant.
I'd say this should be an exotic one-time item, like a phase device. Well, this thing is pretty much overpowered, while being easy to implement, just add ~15000 energy to player, and let him work it out with actions. About missiles not firing - it's a lot harder to make, as they are now resolvable on call, while just prohibiting the Doomguy to fire ranged weapons could do, it shouldn't be IMHO the intended effect.
That reminds me American McGee's Alice...
Hmmm.. if it is supposed to stop time, it should also prevent N! respawning, hold off lava and acid waves (halls of carnage), pause nuke timers, stop the shambler's regeneration, stop regeneration gained by some of the armours, stop health decay (either when boosted without badass or from level feeling)... probably a bunch of other stuff that I haven't thought of. Not se easy to implement.
It could have the effect of freezing only enemies, which would not require the above stuff, and should allow you to still shoot missiles as well.
if I understand game mechanics correctly, the next turn does not start while there is a creature with more than 5000 energy, and each action decreases the acted creature's energy count by its length in milliseconds. So, in case the Doomguy will receive a 15000 energy boost, he will have free actions while his energy will be above 5000, and the turn counter won't advance, and any turn-aligned special procs won't work, be it nuke, lava/acid wave, N! respawning or monster regen. Player armor regen uses player actions count, so it WILL proceed - but it's logical, as the time is not stopped for the player, the same with health decay, while I'm not sure which event triggers deadly chill. So if there is no trimming for the current energy value, this is VERY easy to implement. ;)
OK, I guess that's fair. I'm still quite proud of myslef for the list of stuff that I thought would cause problems =)
Hehehe, I actually came up with a very similar idea last night that I was going to post. Except instead of giving you extra energy, you got to act until you got zero energy, then you'd have to wait for the energy to climb back up. It wouldn't just be a single-use item though, maybe something like a staff.
Quote from: ih8regin and other peoplea bunch of technical stuff
I tried to avoid going into too much detail, but I think I underestimated the DoomRL forum's ability to not choke on obtuse concepts like granting Doomguy infinite energy and having his turns still take time, but happen instantly, with the end result being timed things still happening to him and things he's manipulating - allowing powered armor to regenerate or weapons to be reloaded or medpacks to be picked up - while nothing else can move - nukes or lava crawls or monsters. Or bullets, which would stop once they left the gun barrel, pointed at the thing he was shooting, primed to fly forth and
all miss due to being out of LOS hit at the same time as the other fifty in the volley.
For bonus points, the next action of anything in sight range would pretend Doomguy was still standing in the same spot when time resumed. Somewhat handy if you're surrounded by Barons or something and want a cheap laugh.
I think a consume+carry would either be too weak to be useful or a free boss kill, though...
Quote from: ih8regin on April 06, 2012, 04:21if I understand game mechanics correctly, the next turn does not start while there is a creature with more than 5000 energy, and each action decreases the acted creature's energy count by its length in milliseconds. So, in case the Doomguy will receive a 15000 energy boost, he will have free actions while his energy will be above 5000, and the turn counter won't advance, and any turn-aligned special procs won't work, be it nuke, lava/acid wave, N! respawning or monster regen.
All of this is true, because it's all based on turn timers. However...
Quote from: ih8regin on April 06, 2012, 04:21Player armor regen uses player actions count, so it WILL proceed - but it's logical, as the time is not stopped for the player, the same with health decay, while I'm not sure which event triggers deadly chill.
This is time based, not action based. Running will slow down health decay, so it would completely stop like acid/lava waves stop and monsters stop. But that's not all...
Quote from: ih8regin on April 06, 2012, 04:21Player armor regen uses player actions count, so it WILL proceed - but it's logical, as the time is not stopped for the player,
You'd THINK this would be the case... but it's
not. If the action takes less than a turn, it doesn't count as an action. Testing shows that if you have a ridiculous speed rating or you're messing with the energy counter directly, armors STOP regenerating because your actions aren't actually using turns (also applies to auto-recharging weapons). The reason for this is to prevent abuse with Juggler's instant weapon swapping.
oh, that's even better, as it comes closer to what the Stopwatch designer intended! And thanks, it's always good if some mechanics is explained.
Former Scientist f
25 HP
Random Weapon (Always fully loaded)
Random Ammo Stack (Always maxed out)
Minimum DLevel: 12
Ammo Stack does not have to match Weapon
Quote from: raekuul on April 07, 2012, 08:45Ammo Stack does not have to match Weapon
That's hilarious. Imagine one with a single shotgun and a full stack of plasma cells =)
Quote from: Klear on April 07, 2012, 11:32That's hilarious. Imagine one with a single shotgun and a full stack of plasma cells =)
And a crowbar to defend himself.
but, that scientist shuold be able to get/swap weapons and fire ANYTHING! Go have a full scientist level and a BFG. Ha ha.
Quote from: ih8regin on April 08, 2012, 04:05but, that scientist shuold be able to get/swap weapons and fire ANYTHING! Go have a full scientist level and a BFG. Ha ha.
Scientist only levels should have the level feeling "You hear... nothing..."
And another one.
Universal Bayonet
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2d5 Physical damage
Goes to prepared slot on pick-up
Cannot be unequipped/swapped
Grants two extra levels of Brute while in the prepared slot
Counts as a blade for MMB
Except since it doesn't add Juggler and can't be swapped, you can't actually use it. =B
Yannow, unless you took Juggler on your own.
Modified to grant bonus to brute while prepared
Well, since it's a bayonet it should be used automatically when you try to hit with non-melee weapon regardless of Juggler.
Well that's why it adds two levels of brute on top of whatever you've already got :p
Impossible Difficulty
"A mode that lives up to its name."
You're given three warnings when you start Impossible mode.
"I'm warning you, there's no point playing this. Continue? [Y/N]"
"Why did you press yes? You can't win! It's called Impossible for a reason! Continue? [Y/N]"
"Fine then, but don't come crying to me when you realise it's actually Impossible. Continue (last chance!)? [Y/N]
If you so choose to continue into Impossible mode, the game starts as normal. Ten seconds in, the game illustrates why Impossible mode really is impossible by hitting Phobos with a gigantic meteor half its size, killing you and everything on it.
Hey, that just means you need to either descend to Deimos or find Invulnerability globe in 10 seconds.Someone will surely manage.
Quote from: AlterAsc on April 10, 2012, 10:40Hey, that just means you need to either descend to Deimos or find Invulnerability globe in 10 seconds.Someone will surely manage.
Ten game seconds :D
With some unholy power far beyond our grasp someone will do even that.
2dev's next project! =D
Rocket Fist
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6d6 Fire damage, 4 radius
Single-fire clip, uses rockets for ammunition
Melee weapon with fire-based knockback.
Player is immune to the damage from the point-blank explosion but not the knockback
This will be cool for smashing through walls, knocking around demons and lost souls, and punching entire crowds. It's terrible at fighting anything else. Melee with knockback is a terrible idea. And it requires ammo and reloading, for maximized awkwardness.
On the other hand, you punch people with rockets. Fuck yeah!
Bro Fist
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2d5 melee damage
Summons Bruiser Brothers each time you do 10 or more damage with Bro Fist equipped.
Quote from: thelaptop on April 11, 2012, 16:32Bro Fist
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2d5 melee damage
Summons Bruiser Brothers each time you do 10 or more damage with Bro Fist equipped.
XP Farming ahoy!
Quote from: Uranium on April 11, 2012, 17:10XP Farming ahoy!
Spawned enemies don't give you any XP - not lsot souls comming out of pain elementals, not enemies sum,moned by levers and not enemies that respawn for any reason.
Water Flood level event.
"You feel you need to put on galoshes!"
Water Flood level event, alternate level feelings.
"And the waters returned, and covered all the host of Pharaoh..."
"You hear a flushing sound from somewhere above."
"If this place is the Titanic, then I'll be the Iceberg."
"Should have brought extra socks..."
Fluids slowing down your movement speed.
When hell freezes over, the floor should turn slippery. You can't move normally, and have to fire a weapon in the opposite direction in which you want to move. Pistols/rapid fire weapons move one space per shot, shotguns move damage/4 spaces, and rocket launchers and BFGs move you in the same direction until you hit a wall/monster.
Grappling boots allow you to move normally. Explosions that deal upwards of 25 damage should remove the icy floor from the spaces that such damage was dealt to.
Quote from: Uranium on April 13, 2012, 06:09When hell freezes over, the floor should turn slippery. You can't move normally, and have to fire a weapon in the opposite direction in which you want to move. Pistols/rapid fire weapons move one space per shot, shotguns move damage/4 spaces, and rocket launchers and BFGs move you in the same direction until you hit a wall/monster.
Grappling boots allow you to move normally. Explosions that deal upwards of 25 damage should remove the icy floor from the spaces that such damage was dealt to.
What about pure melee like AoB? How'd you move then?
Better: Each time you moved, you'd move automatically every (move_speed x 0,9) in the same direction until you hit an impassable tile (or ran out of momentum). Finally a way to chainfire and dodge at the same time =)
Moving in a different diraction while this movement happens would adjust the vector accordingly, moving in the same direction would increase the speed of automatic movement (with some upper limit) and moving in the opposite direction would cause you to fall and be unable to change do anything until the automatic movement stops.
BTW, to make this realistic, non-flying monsters would have to be subject to this as well... demons would be hilarious like this, though what I'd really love to see is the cyberdemon slipping on frozen-over hell floor and sliding across the map.
Quote from: thelaptop on April 13, 2012, 07:04What about pure melee like AoB? How'd you move then?
You would need a _lot_ a knives to throw ;).
By the way,
Spoiler
ADOM and it's D:49 level
rings a bell here ;).
Quote from: ZicherCZ on April 13, 2012, 07:28You would need a _lot_ a knives to throw ;).
By the way, Spoiler
ADOM and it's D:49 level
THAT IS NOT WHERE I GOT THIS IDEA FROM WHAT MADE YOU SAY THAT
you got me
Quote from: Klear on April 13, 2012, 07:24Better: Each time you moved, you'd move automatically every (move_speed x 0,9) in the same direction until you hit an impassable tile (or ran out of momentum). Finally a way to chainfire and dodge at the same time =)
Moving in a different diraction while this movement happens would adjust the vector accordingly, moving in the same direction would increase the speed of automatic movement (with some upper limit) and moving in the opposite direction would cause you to fall and be unable to change do anything until the automatic movement stops.
BTW, to make this realistic, non-flying monsters would have to be subject to this as well... demons would be hilarious like this, though what I'd really love to see is the cyberdemon slipping on frozen-over hell floor and sliding across the map.
To quote Rattrap from the Beastwars, "Now dat's... gatta Hurt."
Quote from: Uranium on April 13, 2012, 08:10THAT IS NOT WHERE I GOT THIS IDEA FROM WHAT MADE YOU SAY THAT you got me
;-D
Anyway, as a regular level this would mean truckloads of frustration. The level I mentioned consists of spiralling one-tile-wide corridors, whereas DoomRL tends much more to open spaces. Firing at enemies, especially when they move from several sides at once, would be truly a mess to control, doubly so if you concentrate on a single type of weapons.
If I was any good at modding, I would attempt something like that, based on rocketjumps. Alas ...
Quote from: ZicherCZ on April 14, 2012, 04:58If I was any good at modding, I would attempt something like that, based on rocketjumps. Alas ...
OMG, rocketjump training map?! Someone should actually try to do this.
Angel of the Gauntlet
You play all the challenges one by one from HNTR, in increasing difficulty of the challenge (new difficulty ratings in next release). Then you play them on HMP. Then UV. Then N!.
You cannot save; you cannot die. You may bring one weapon, one stack of ammunition for that (if needed), one armour and one set of boots between each challenge. You may retain only 1 Advanced trait taken between each challenge; but if it blocks some master trait, that trait will be block.
When you die, you start the gauntlet all over again.
that thing is just too dam long to play without any saves. Imagine a blackout at AoPu N! within this challenge - POOF, about three days of playing are gone. I expect that saving should be allowed at the very start of each challenge on each difficulty (maybe except N! as it's Nightmare!)
Quote from: ih8regin on April 19, 2012, 23:10that thing is just too dam long to play without any saves. Imagine a blackout at AoPu N! within this challenge - POOF, about three days of playing are gone. I expect that saving should be allowed at the very start of each challenge on each difficulty (maybe except N! as it's Nightmare!)
Please note the name of this thread=)
I had a similar idea to Angel of Gauntlet except as a real challenge instead of a horrible idea.
Mushroom Badge - Awarded for killing all of the starting Pain Elementals in the City of Skulls before hurting a single Lost Soul.
Die Hard Medal: Awarded for finishing the game without wearing boots.
Quote from: Klear on April 22, 2012, 11:42Die Hard Medal: Awarded for finishing the game without wearing boots.
Actually not a bad idea.
Quote from: ih8regin on April 19, 2012, 23:10[note about how something inconvenient during the N! challenge would kill days of playing]
[suggestion that saving be allowed, except on N!]
...what?
Ander Hammer, you should read descrtiption of the entire "gauntlet", and find out it includes HNTR/HMP/UV plays throughout every challenge. So, in case of a said game got ruined to a blackout at N! somewhere, the unfortunate player will be able to restart from last UV challenge, without taking HNTR/HMP/UV first.
Quote from: Klear on April 22, 2012, 11:42Die Hard Medal: Awarded for finishing the game without wearing boots.
+1, just for the reference.
Quote from: Matt_S on April 22, 2012, 16:58Actually not a bad idea.
Well, I posted it here since I originally intended it to be "Angel of Die Hard" where you can't wear any boots. That would be silly.
Edit: In any case, everything I'm forced to walk through acid/lava without boots I think of Die Hard =)
I think that it would be more fitting if it was something like "walked over 100 tiles of hazardous terrain without boots".After all, the point was getting hurt by glass, not just random walking.
Quote from: ih8regin on April 22, 2012, 23:27Ander Hammer, you should read descrtiption of the entire "gauntlet", and find out it includes HNTR/HMP/UV plays throughout every challenge. So, in case of a said game got ruined to a blackout at N! somewhere, the unfortunate player will be able to restart from last UV challenge, without taking HNTR/HMP/UV first.
Sorry, I didn't notice the part where 'you cannot save' in Angel of Gauntlet post.
DoomRL was groundbreaking because it supported the use of sound to guide players. Let's take it up a notch!
DoomRL KTV add-on! We can make use of the microphone to "sing" special tunes that does special things to the monsters and/or the level. It can even be an area attack if it is particularly beautifully sung (demons hate nice sounding music).
Better yet, incorporate voice-recognition commands! Suddenly DoomRL is like a commander ordering his poor soldier to go into hell and kill'em all before coming back (if at all).
Probably considered a horrible idea by most people... but...
Female Marines (DoomGirls?)
Mainly because I feel bad for a DoomGuy if I just give him a girls name and pretend. Because I can't help thinking: "clearly he was a guy, its just he got given a girly name by his squadmates". :D
And all this is because I can always think of badass girls from anime that actually have some of the skills I'd be learning in game (i.e. they actually demonstrate Gun Kata, or Malicious Blades), and whom are still sufficiently whiny enough for me to want to get them killed in a Roguelike, too. :D
Quote from: eharper256 on May 01, 2012, 09:45Female Marines (DoomGirls?)
DoomGirls have been suggested on several occasions, I'm not going to bother digging up those threads. The conclusion of most of them is that gender could be set in the config.lua, but it presents some string problems, such as trait names and descriptions. Son of a Gun/Bitch and Dualgunner both have an obviously masculine trait name or make reference to "babes" (not going to sift for the exact wording). Also all the personal pronouns in mortem files (He was an Angel of.... He was a real killing machine.... etc).
For what it's worth, I think that it would be a cool feature, but would probably be underused. DOOM has historically been a pretty lopsided boys' club of a game, and Kornel probably banked on that fact when coding DoomRL. I'm not saying that girls don't play DOOM or DoomRL, I've just got a pretty strong suspicion that there aren't a whole lot of them.
Speaking as a man (which somewhat limits my perspective on this subject) I don't think that the option of playing as a Doomgal is necessary for this game. When you play Doom you're playing as a character: an unstoppable juggernaut of a man who is hilariously macho even without the cheesy one-liners that characterized later '90s shooters. Sure the characterization is a little thin, but Doomguy is still a character, just like Mario, Sonic, Lara Croft, etc. are characters (and you can't change their genders at will).
Larry Croft, tomb raider.
Sounds boring. O.O
The character you see on screen is either a tiny icon or an @ sign. Most of the time, references to the character are through the pronoun "You", which is gender neutral. The few directly masculine references are in flavor text of the trait descriptions, which are minor. Any added gender-switch would be purely cosmetic, do nothing but flip a few random words in the skill descriptions, and be all-around kinda pointless.
You want to play a doomgal, put a femme name when prompted for one. This achieves exactly as much as a gender option would.
Firewalker Medal
Walk on 50 lava tiles without boots and healing in a single game.
Firewalker Cross
Walk on 200 lava tiles without boots and healing in a single game.
Quote from: Creepy on May 01, 2012, 11:23You want to play a doomgal, put a femme name when prompted for one. This achieves exactly as much as a gender option would.
Did you read this at all:
QuoteMainly because I feel bad for a DoomGuy if I just give him a girls name and pretend. Because I can't help thinking: "clearly he was a guy, its just he got given a girly name by his squadmates". :D
Quote from: Creaphis on May 01, 2012, 10:58Sure the characterization is a little thin, but Doomguy is still a character, just like Mario, Sonic, Lara Croft, etc. are characters (and you can't change their genders at will).
Actually, to me, Doomguy is characterised pretty well, since I actually owned the cheesy comic (where all the quotes for DoomRL skills are from, I believe) and I've read the rather meh novel (Flynn Taggart, I believe was his name there).
Interestingly, though, in the novel, there was a Female UAC marine. So its not entirely without precedent. Still, I figured most would see it as a horrible idea, hence me placing it here!
I'vereadthatI'vereadthatI'vereadthatyayyayyayI'mnottheonlyoneyay!
I read all four too. A.S. was definitely a fun character. =P
Quote from: thelaptop on May 01, 2012, 11:29Firewalker Medal
Walk on 50 lava tiles without boots and healing in a single game.
Firewalker Cross
Walk on 200 lava tiles without boots and healing in a single game.
Well ... That means something like Lava Pits with two envirosuits ;).
Hmm. You've got a point.
Change it to walking on lava tiles while taking damage from lava. This also means that invul won't work, but 'zerk would. =D
Why noy just make it "Take 50 damage from Lava" and "Take 200 damage from Lava"?
I dunno. I like the idea of not wearing boots being a part of it. But anyway, it's supposed to be a horrible idea... =P
Angel of Frost - Every stage is either frozen over, a hard nut to crack, or a special stage.
Angel of Waves - Every stage has a flooding lever of some sort.
Wave Rider Diamond - Clear N! Angel of Waves without pulling a single lever.
Angel of Three - Mancubi Everywhere
Angel of Plasma - Why waste time carrying bullets and shotguns when you've got plasma weaponry already?
Angel of Ceres - Combination reverse-direction game and AoRA.
Quote from: raekuul on May 01, 2012, 19:55Angel of Three - Mancubi Everywhere and you can only use the Tristar Blaster
Fixed that for you.
Quote from: raekuul on May 01, 2012, 19:55Angel of Waves - Every stage has a flooding lever of some sort.
Wave Rider Diamond - Clear N! Angel of Waves having pulled every single lever.
Fixed
that for you.
Quote from: Ander Hammer on May 03, 2012, 02:49Wave Rider Diamond - Clear N! Angel of Waves having pulled every single lever.
That remonds b of Escape form LA: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2_E9ebt1a_s (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2_E9ebt1a_s)
Ander Hammer: What's the defining feature of Nightmare difficulty, and what do flooding levers do to that? If anything, the Platinum for Angel of Waves would be pulling every single lever on UV
Rereading over this thread, saw this.
Quote from: thelaptop on April 19, 2012, 21:37Angel of the Gauntlet
You play all the challenges one by one from HNTR, in increasing difficulty of the challenge (new difficulty ratings in next release). Then you play them on HMP. Then UV. Then N!.
You cannot save; you cannot die. You may bring one weapon, one stack of ammunition for that (if needed), one armour and one set of boots between each challenge. You may retain only 1 Advanced trait taken between each challenge; but if it blocks some master trait, that trait will be block.
When you die, you start the gauntlet all over again.
Get to Angel of Overconfidence on N!
"Welcome to Hell, level 1. Twisted passageways smell of death. The arachnotron hits you. The arachnotron hits you. The arachnotron hits you. The arachnotron hits you. The arachnotron hits you. The arachnotron hits you. The arachnotron hits you. The arachnotron hits you. You die..."
Quote from: Kashi on March 01, 2011, 05:17Better yet: "Red paint mod", which makes your guns fire/armor movespeed THREE times faster/, because you think it's possible! Clap your hands if you believe, indeed.
Some nice memories there, yeah. But reading 1d4Chan stuff, I got ahold of another Orky thing.
/tg/'s Purple paint modDescription: "Purple iz da sneakiest color!"
Effect: Can only be used on armors and boots. All enemy attacks when using that armor count as having -4 accuracy, no matter which weapon is. Even Archvile's flames are affected!
QuoteEven Archvile's flames are affected!
Even better –
nuclear explosion can miss you! But you have to believe in it oh so much.
Invulnerability Marble
A powerup, that grants invulnerability against a single source of damage, i.e. when you would be damaged for the first time after picking it up (from whatever source), the damage is negated and invulnerability ends.
Yes, you could survive a nuke with this one.
Invulnerability Marble + N! AoRA = Corpseless Nightmare
I expect this powerup to last a single application of damage, so you won't survive the second nuke whatever you do - well, unless taking another powerup for nuclear explosions. BTW, the damage in question is "fire", so a mancubus can trick the doomguy off this one :)
Quote from: raekuul on May 16, 2012, 23:38Invulnerability Marble + N! AoRA = Corpseless Nightmare
Well, how often would you expect to find the Marble? ;)
(In case this would not be clear - a nuke _is_ a source of damage. Yes, you can get through one. No, you can _not_ get through two.)
A challenge I thought a while ago. Yeah, I'm that insane.
Angel of Frailty:
"You know that protection can get destroyed, right? Right!? Well, guess what, chump? Weapons can be destroyed if they are over-used, too!". Any and all weapons have limited durability, which depletes on each use. Armor shards and the lever effects related to repairing of armor can be used to replenish the damage weapons sustain over time.
Angel of Perfection
You only have 1 hit point. Ironman, TaN and Badass are blocked.
Quote from: 2DeviationsOut on May 17, 2012, 06:51Angel of Perfection
You only have 1 hit point. Ironman, TaN and Badass are blocked.
Just when I wondered to propose this challenge, with 2DevsOut difficulty rating. You, sir, read my mind :-D.
2Dev, it's enough to block Bad and Iro with this, because regardless of TaN levels, if you're hit, you are hit for 1 damage at least, which is enough to get killed.
Quote from: ih8regin on May 17, 2012, 23:162Dev, it's enough to block Bad and Iro with this, because regardless of TaN levels, if you're hit, you are hit for 1 damage at least, which is enough to get killed.
It's better if it's blocked, because why would someone spend a point in a trait that doesn't work? Leaving it activated would be an unneccesary thing to do, as one can accidentally choose it.
Quote from: Kashi on May 18, 2012, 06:02It's better if it's blocked, because why would someone spend a point in a trait that doesn't work?
To get to some Master trait.
=)
Indeed; Marines still get the shot at Survivalist if the traits aren't blocked, which then negates scratch damage.
Question: Has anyone actually managed a Zero Damage run?
I don't see the benefit of taking Bad on such a challenge. I mean, take two traits so you can hold onto one extra HP indefinitely?
And you can take EE on AoMC, SoB on AoPC, SoG on AoSh etc...
Quote from: raekuul on May 18, 2012, 11:21Question: Has anyone actually managed a Zero Damage run?
You mean other than 2Dev?
Quote from: raekuul on May 18, 2012, 11:21Indeed; Marines still get the shot at Survivalist if the traits aren't blocked, which then negates scratch damage.
Question: Has anyone actually managed a Zero Damage run?
2Dev has (twice, perhaps three times):
http://forum.chaosforge.org/index.php/topic,5582.0.html
http://forum.chaosforge.org/index.php/topic,5649.0.html
The ability to grab Lost Souls and throw them at things. Throwing Lost Souls while berserk makes them explode like rockets, because you throw too hard.
Quote from: Creepy on May 18, 2012, 12:23The ability to grab Lost Souls and throw them at things. Throwing Lost Souls while berserk makes them explode like rockets, because you throw too hard.
Let me make it more horrible.
When berserked...
Bru x3 = Grab and throw Lost Souls
Bru x4 = Grab and throw Demons, Imps, Formers and Lost Souls
Bru x5 = Grab and throw Hell Knights, Arachnotrons, Demons, Imps, Formers and Lost Souls
Why no Mancubus? Have you even
seen that damn thing? No amount of jujitsu will be able to launch that bastard across the room...
But seriously, melee DoomGuy as a master of jujitsu-esque throwing. Hmmm...
Next we'll be suplexing trains.
When berserked - can disarm any enemy.
Mancubi rocketz pretty cool!
Quote from: thelaptop on May 19, 2012, 08:22Let me make it more horrible.
When berserked...
Bru x3 = Grab and throw Lost Souls
Bru x4 = Grab and throw Demons, Imps, Formers and Lost Souls
Bru x5 = Grab and throw Hell Knights, Arachnotrons, Demons, Imps, Formers and Lost Souls
Why no Mancubus? Have you even seen that damn thing? No amount of jujitsu will be able to launch that bastard across the room...
But seriously, melee DoomGuy as a master of jujitsu-esque throwing. Hmmm...
The ability to carry around the disarmed Cyberdemon and toss him at things!
We can also have...
Coalflinger MedalFinish Phobos Anomaly throwing one Bruiser Brother at the other.
Coalflinger CrossFinish the game by throwing Cyberdemon at Spider Mastermind.
Coalflinger ShieldScore a full win throwing Hell Knights/Barons of Hell at JC.
Ninja Badge for use more than 30 Phase Devices per one game.
Quote from: Silhar on May 20, 2012, 02:16Coalflinger Cross
Finish the game by throwing Cyberdemon at Spider Mastermind.
That made me laugh out loud...
Now I want a BrutalDoomRL.
Object of Attachment
Exotic Consumable Item
Once used, it will fuse any object from your inventory to you, making you take on the characteristics of the said object. For example, fusing medpacks to you give small regeneration, fusing phase devices give you random teleportitis (within 5 radius), fusing homing phase devices give you teleportitis (within 5 radius, always towards the stairs), fusing any of the ammo will cause you to regen that ammo if you have the suitable weapon equipped, fusing a mod "mods" your intrinsic in a random way (e.g. agility mod can either increase your accuracy or your speed, bulk to your health or to your melee damage, technical to your firing rate or to your knockback resistance, power to your overall attack or to overall defense), fusing weapons allows you to do bonus damage of the weapon damage type but at a fifth of what the damage roll is (e.g. fused shotgun gives you bonus of shrapnel damage (8d3)/5 without using traits, but no spread effect), fusing armour gives you half the resistances and one free TaN equivalent, fusing skulls grants you random procs of the effects of the skull.
Fusing the Object of Attachment to yourself or if you already used the Object of Attachment instakills you.
Fuse a nuke, get some revenge agter death! Also, onyx modpacks are instawin then.
...so what happens if you fuse the Arena Master's Staff? Or the Hellwave Pack?
Quote from: Shoop da Whoop on May 20, 2012, 08:17Also, onyx modpacks are instawin then.
Nooo.You become undestructible completely.That means you can't move too.
Quote from: AlterAsc on May 20, 2012, 08:40Nooo.You become undestructible completely.That means you can't move too.
Exactly! =D
Arena Master's Staff will
Spoiler
enslave your mind and transform you into new Arena Master! Same applies for Revenant's launcher.
As for Hellwave pack... It may trigger combustion after some amount of damage, like from Berserker.
Another question arises: how would work the fused Necroarmor and medical armors?
That leads seamlessly into my challenge idea:
Angel of Onyx. The player is indestructible and cannot move. You can only complete levels by getting blasted in the direction of the stairs.
Sounds like a job for a nano modded rocket launcher...
Quote from: Creaphis on May 20, 2012, 14:41That leads seamlessly into my challenge idea:
Angel of Onyx. The player is indestructible and cannot move. You can only complete levels by getting blasted in the direction of the stairs.
Can I take Ironman trait every 2 levels being kicked downstairs?
If you fuse the lava element you become invincible on fire!
Angel of Explodium:
"Just having you around increases the flammability of concrete". Just as the name implies, everything blows up. You shoot against a wall? It explodes, even if you used some other weapon that wasn't a rocket launcher. Killed enemies? Chunky salsa everywhere, with little bits of gore here and there. Hell, even YOU explode (With a big-ass, nuclear-like shockwave) when you die.
Quote from: Klear on May 20, 2012, 14:44Sounds like a job for a nano modded rocket launcher...
Good luck getting that in the first place.
Angel of Explodium - an interesting idea, but I'd rather call this "Angel of Frozen Hell" - all levels are "Hell frozen over", so crispy and stuff. Not only your shots break walls, enemies' too. (If only there would be a way to retain lava/acid rivers and rooms.)
Except the levels are made of nitroglycerin, not ice.
Quote from: Creaphis on May 22, 2012, 08:34Except the levels are made of nitroglycerin, not ice.
Frozen nitroglycerin,
on fire.
Angel of Filling Station?
Angel of Dante :p
Angel of Reverse - You play as a former human and have to kill the marines in the base.
Quote from: Kashi on May 22, 2012, 18:40Angel of Reverse - You play as a former human and have to kill the marines in the base.
You could actually build a whole game around that idea. Not just an Angel, an entire game.
Quote from: IronBeer on May 22, 2012, 18:42You could actually build a whole game around that idea. Not just an Angel, an entire game.
I thought about the same and I named it Angel of NonSense
The idea was to play as former and look on the level for armor and weapon, when monsters arent aware of you.
After some turns , like AoRA, here comes boss - Doomguy, and starts killing monsters and you. Your task obvious)
Quote from: IronBeer on May 22, 2012, 18:42You could actually build a whole game around that idea. Not just an Angel, an entire game.
Doom: Repercussions of Evil the Roguelike, anyone?
There should be "cursed" boots and another "cursed" weapon. You know how you can't take off the Cybernetic armor, you can't get rid of the Berserker armor or the Dragonslayer? There should be "cursed" boots and a "cursed" shotgun or something.
There should also be a "cursed" suit! Here's what I was thinking:
If you found three pieces to the cursed suit (a cursed armor, weapon, and boots), and wore them all at the same time, you could swap only ONE out for something else when you have all three pieces on. If you have only two, you can't remove either of them unless you find the other piece and wear it. So, you could swap out your cursed armor for something else, but you'll still be wearing the cursed boots and weapon. You know what I mean?
Why not make a "tactical suit"?
Like, if you wear tac armor, boots, shotgun, and rocket launcher, you'll get a +1 protection to armor and boots?
That's a good idea. We already have a set of artifacts and two sets of exotics. Tac suit - a set of assemblies.
BTW, is the gothic armour set actually good for anything? I only managed to get both pieces recently and... it was funny. I was thinking that maybe the lack of mobility would be offset by some bonus to resistances or armour (great for entrenched technicians, I think) but I didn't notice anything like that.
Quote from: Klear on June 23, 2012, 15:51BTW, is the gothic armour set actually good for anything? I only managed to get both pieces recently and... it was funny. I was thinking that maybe the lack of mobility would be offset by some bonus to resistances or armour (great for entrenched technicians, I think) but I didn't notice anything like that.
Yes. When you wear the Gothic Armor AND the Gothic Boots, you become immune to knockback and you can't move. You're like a turret. I think that the message is something like "You can't move!" or something.
Quote from: Klear on June 23, 2012, 15:51BTW, is the gothic armour set actually good for anything? I only managed to get both pieces recently and... it was funny. I was thinking that maybe the lack of mobility would be offset by some bonus to resistances or armour (great for entrenched technicians, I think) but I didn't notice anything like that.
you become completely resistant to knockback and gain an additional armour bonus (+4, I think)
Actually, it's not only that you become immune to knockback. It's more like you're some kind of immovable fortress with enough dakka to obliterate whatever's near you.
Quote from: Kashi on June 24, 2012, 14:58Actually, it's not only that you become immune to knockback. It's more like you're some kind of immovable fortress with enough dakka to obliterate whatever's near you.
Correct. Oh, and what exactly does the phaseshift suit do?
You float, so you don't touch acid or lava, so you are not damaged by them.
I'd say that phaseshift set is much better than gothic.
At least you don't need to equip part of it in the middle of combat to get protection and uneqiup it to move further.
Scramble Soda
One drink of this and who knows where you'll wake up.
Fully restores HP and repairs Armor... but causes random teleporting (every 20 seconds, you randomly teleport to one tile within basic vision range (that is, before light-amp or cateye))
@GinDiamond, Uranium and Kashi
Thanks!
Quote from: raekuul on June 24, 2012, 22:38Scramble Soda
One drink of this and who knows where you'll wake up.
Fully restores HP and repairs Armor... but causes random teleporting (every 20 seconds, you randomly teleport to one tile within basic vision range (that is, before light-amp or cateye))
What exactly is this?
It inflicts a limited version of teleportitis (http://nethack.wikia.com/wiki/Teleportitis)
Kalja
A consumable which restores health to 100%, and makes you berserk for 20 turns. Downside is, you get severe hangover symptoms afterwards.
Trait-Boost Manuals
Considering the fact that we are in the future, it seems strange that there isn't any kind of book there. Yeah, maybe they just read from their PDAs, but it's still strange... Well, getting back to the topic, these manuals, once read, can boost a level in one basic trait, unless it's blocked by a master.
Quote from: Kashi on June 26, 2012, 08:03Trait-Boost Manuals
Considering the fact that we are in the future, it seems strange that there isn't any kind of book there.
This sentence completely boggles my mind. Who even reads books
now?
Quote from: Creaphis on June 26, 2012, 09:31This sentence completely boggles my mind. Who even reads books now?
You philistine! Be ashamed of yourself this instant!
Quote from: Klear on June 26, 2012, 10:14You philistine! Be ashamed of yourself this instant!
I will add one simple thing to what you said, Klear: "BURN THE HERETIC!"
Quote from: Creaphis on June 26, 2012, 09:31This sentence completely boggles my mind. Who even reads books now?
You are hereby sentenced to 50 YASDs in a row and the punishment of hand-writing them down and posting them all here. Preferably in the proper mortem format.
Quote from: ZicherCZ on June 28, 2012, 05:55You are hereby sentenced to 50 YASDs in a row and the punishment of hand-writing them down and posting them all here. Preferably in the proper mortem format.
Only 50? You are too kind heheheh...
Quote from: thelaptop on June 28, 2012, 08:12Only 50? You are too kind heheheh...
I probably am, but I believe people can repent. Let s give him a second chance ;).
Sneer all you want. I'm not seeing a lot of literary discussions over here.
Scroll of Leverage
s
Creates a random lever on the tile underneath you.
Quote from: Creaphis on June 26, 2012, 09:31This sentence completely boggles my mind. Who even reads books now?
Lol BOGGLE!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EVq302JLnVw (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EVq302JLnVw)
Quote from: Creaphis on June 26, 2012, 09:31This sentence completely boggles my mind. Who even reads books now?
O_o
o_O
O_O
( . ) __ ( . )
Die.
Slightly inspired by Klear's posts here (http://forum.chaosforge.org/index.php/topic,5848.0.html), two items sprang to my mind:
Beer six-pack
A consumable, that grants 10% resists all, +1 melee damage and -1 overall accuracy. Consume time 1.0s (hey, DoomGuy can drink, right), effect lasts for 60s (the DoomGuy can sober up as fast).
Effects from multiple beers stack, and with six beers in blood at once, you are given a full berserk effect, except for -10 accuracy.
Six-pack means you can use one ot these items six times before you finally drink it all.
Cigarette pack
Again a consumable, that takes 120s to use, and it's use is interrupted and lost if the player takes damage. However, you rest when you smoke, so a fully smoked cigarette recovers your fatigue from tired to cautious.
A cigarette pack has twenty uses (a standard size of a cigarette pack).
Quote from: ZicherCZ on July 05, 2012, 12:41Cigarette pack
Again a consumable, that takes 120s to use, and it's use is interrupted and lost if the player takes damage. However, you rest when you smoke, so a fully smoked cigarette recovers your fatigue from tired to cautious.
A cigarette pack has twenty uses (a standard size of a cigarette pack).
Should drain 1HP per use or something along those lines.
Max or current HP?
Indescribable Object
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This thing would make a decent spear if it were longer.
3d5 Melee
Special: improves movespeed, attackspeed by 0.1s when wielded.
120s for just a rest is a plenty as is IMO. Say you're on AoRA :)
Indescribable object - blade or not? Also, wielded in active or prepared hand? Also, one of the names for it could be "katar", or "pilum"
Quote from: ih8regin on July 06, 2012, 03:33Indescribable object - blade or not? Also, wielded in active or prepared hand? Also, one of the names for it could be "katar", or "pilum"
We can't say - we'd be describing it!
It does not count for Malicious Blades and that's all I'm saying on the subject.
Because the cigarettes are radioactive, you don't loose 1HP but there's a 1% chance you will die of radioactive lung cancer,
Quote from: Melon on July 13, 2012, 04:40...The cigarettes are radioactive...
LOLWUT
Quote from: Melon on July 13, 2012, 04:40Because the cigarettes are radioactive....
I like it.
Small charm.
Keep in inventory to gain bonus. ^^
Small Behelit
Unique one-time use
Effects: When activated, a swarm of nightmare demons appear and fight on [em]your[/em] side on that level until they kill everything or are killed. Once the enemies on the floor are killed, the nightmare demons turn against you and from then on, each time a floor is spawned, an additional 20 nightmare demons are spawned also that will hunt you down. You will suffer accuracy and damage penalties against them due to your fear of activating something you don't understand.